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  Sunday, 26 November 2023
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Good evening!

A gnostic instructor said:

Everyone who comes into the spiritual path is convinced that they are the ones that will become a Mahatma or Logos. I am telling you a secret, because I know that everyone thinks that of themselves, but so does everybody else. Yet listen: the truth is that only one in a million will do it. It is rare to become such a high being. You will be very fortunate if you manage to simply get off the wheel at all, just as a simple elemental.

A simple elemental is any creature that has come out of nature and has eliminated all of its impurity, that has just freed itself from its pride, animalism, lust. It has just become clean, but just clean enough to get off the wheel. That is just a simple elemental. There are buddhas like that, many uncountable numbers, from an uncountable number of worlds. They are very pure, very beautiful angels, but they are not Mahatmas; they are not Logoi. That level is only achieved by Bodhisattvas. These are two very different, very distinct levels of attainment.

An elemental Buddha is a very beautiful being, and radiates incredible purity, more than any of us could probably imagine. But a Mahatma, a Logos, is a Sun. Compare the light of firefly or a candle to a Sun. That is the difference to these two. They are very distinct. Nevertheless, it is only possible to reach either state from the humanoid kingdom. We need our humanoid body in order to reach either of those levels.

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The path of those that separate themselves is related to those elementals that simply reach enough purity, they purge enough karma and perform enough sacrifice for others that they achieve a vacation, a “break.” They can step out of the cycle and get a break, but it is not permanent . Many achieve that; many yogis, monks, nuns, priests, work hard during a lifetime, they perform a lot of good deeds, they work to change, and they become better people. After death, they get a break; they step out of the scenario for a while, and they get a break in a heavenly realm. But inevitably, they have to come back, because their psyche belongs to these realms. So, we can set that one aside for right now, because ultimately, it does not go anywhere.

https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/bhavachakra-the-wheel-of-becoming/liberation-from-suffering


Nevertheless, the Máster Samael Aun Weor says:

This is why the subject XX, a gentleman who was listening to me in the ancient Egypt of the Pharaohs, he was not an initiate, nor anything of their kind, but he accepted the doctrine regarding the disintegration of the red demons of Seth — as we called the ego in the Upper and Lower Egypt — in other words, the “I’s." He managed to perform part of the work during his life, he disintegrated, we would say, about 50%. Thus, after his death he received instruction. We taught him how to close womb-doors. Therefore, after death, when the hurricane of karma horribly howled, he remained calm, unmoved. When the tenebrous demons furiously attacked him, he remained serene, impassive. When the storm over his head poured rain, thunder, and lightning, he continued, impassive. When he reached a certain place where men and women copulated, he was serene, without sympathy for anyone, nor antipathy for anyone; he did not seek refuge within any cave in the middle of the storm, because he knew that seeking shelter in the storm was equivalent to becoming a prisoner in a womb. That cave would be a womb. Thus, he did not seek shelter within anything or within anyone. Finally, the Father-Mother submitted him to terrible trials, yet he remained firm.

The priests of the temple aided him by reminding him his purpose, which was to never return to the world. Finally in the end, he was admitted into a realm of those many kingdoms of the Molecular World, namely the Tlalocan, the Kingdom of Long Hair or the High Concentration, into those different realms that are there in the beyond.

So, finally, when that Essence was admitted into one of those many kingdoms, his Divine Mother helped him to eliminate the rest of the “I's" that Essence needed to eliminate. And finally the Essence became free, and started taking beautiful shapes. First, the Essence took the shape of a maiden of 14 or 12 years old, then she took the shape of a very beautiful girl, finally, became transformed into a simple, most beautiful female elemental. Then, having that aspect, as that she immersed within the great alaya of the universe as a single elemental.

Here also, in ancient Mexico, many initiates did the same, and as that they departed from the cosmic scenario. They did not return to take part of it. In other words, they were elementals that were not interested in reaching the heights of humans or gods, or anything, but they remain being elementals in the great bosom of the universe. Some initiates of ancient Mexico did it intentionally in order to return later in golden age, and to enter into a mystery school to become qualified adepts. Meanwhile, they step aside from the evolutions and devolutions, and withdrew from the cosmic scenario and immersed themselves within the great alaya of the universe, exclusively through that process.

https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/lectures-by-samael-aun-weor/cosmic-transmigration-of-souls


So, why does the gnostic instructor say that the path of the elemental buddhas takes you nowhere, nonetheless the Master admits that an egyptian student was able to submerge himself into the Absolute through that way?
4 months ago
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Comparatively, self-knowledge on the path of elemental buddhas is nothing compared to self-knowledge on the path of mastery.

There are degrees of objective reasoning: the capacity of the consciousness to understand the Absolute. Elemental buddhas possess very little knowledge of the Absolute compared to a Master, hence the parallel between the light of a firefly and a sun.

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

4 months ago
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#30046
Any response?
4 months ago
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#30055
Accepted Answer
Comparatively, self-knowledge on the path of elemental buddhas is nothing compared to self-knowledge on the path of mastery.

There are degrees of objective reasoning: the capacity of the consciousness to understand the Absolute. Elemental buddhas possess very little knowledge of the Absolute compared to a Master, hence the parallel between the light of a firefly and a sun.

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

Almustafa selected the reply #30055 as the answer for this post — 4 months ago
4 months ago
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#30132
Thank you so much!
Maybe one more question. So, how is it posible those elementals get rid of all the ego in the internal worlds, after death and they postpone the creation of the solar bodies for the Golden Age, during the 6th race (based on the former quotation)?
I had always understood that heavier egos were only eliminated through Alchemy and you needed those vessels in the process. Is there anything that I am missing?
4 months ago
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#30159
Any clarification or comment Is appreciated.
3 months ago
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#30160
My limited understanding is that elemental buddhas can eliminate enough ego to temporarily detach from Samsara. While elemental buddhas can eliminate the rest of their I’s, what remains are causal seeds, which for most of us require the force of a matrimony to expunge.

There may be exceptions to this, which is what Samael Aun Weor appears to be indicating from the lecture. I would personally ask him in the internal worlds to clarify this mystery, since there are many things beyond my knowledge and experience.

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

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