Wednesday, 19 November 2014
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Hi,
I have often wondered that, since Venerable Master Samael Aun Weor, worked so hard to form a movement and help the people of this planet, that he would most certainly keep in contact with the people following his teachings. And I am sure he is still working in a way invisible to us, perhaps from Tibet.
Even though I have had instances of seeing him in the astral plane, I would still like to hear experiences from someone who has more contact with him. I wonder if he has ever given messages through someone who has become adept in astral travelling enough to receive guidance from him on a more regular basis. I don't think its hard to imagine that via astral experiences he could potentially even leave a new book for example.
Considering the many events that have unfolded after his disincarnation, if he is still with the movement he formed, he would likely guide it from the Higher Dimensions. And knowing his students are informed about occultism and these matters, its not impossible to let his students know via an Adept still living on Earth, to communicate with the Movement to continue to guide the students, since so many of us are failing.
I know I will probably be told to just concentrate on my own inner progress and ignore the rest.
But this is something I wondered many years ago, and have never asked.
Peace,
SeelerOfLight
I have often wondered that, since Venerable Master Samael Aun Weor, worked so hard to form a movement and help the people of this planet, that he would most certainly keep in contact with the people following his teachings. And I am sure he is still working in a way invisible to us, perhaps from Tibet.
Even though I have had instances of seeing him in the astral plane, I would still like to hear experiences from someone who has more contact with him. I wonder if he has ever given messages through someone who has become adept in astral travelling enough to receive guidance from him on a more regular basis. I don't think its hard to imagine that via astral experiences he could potentially even leave a new book for example.
Considering the many events that have unfolded after his disincarnation, if he is still with the movement he formed, he would likely guide it from the Higher Dimensions. And knowing his students are informed about occultism and these matters, its not impossible to let his students know via an Adept still living on Earth, to communicate with the Movement to continue to guide the students, since so many of us are failing.
I know I will probably be told to just concentrate on my own inner progress and ignore the rest.
But this is something I wondered many years ago, and have never asked.
Peace,
SeelerOfLight
Accepted Answer
In my interactions with the Master, he has always indicated for me the need to rise to a higher level of being. When asking him why he could not come to me physically, he clearly pointed out my error and instructed me about my laziness!
Students want the Master to come down from heaven without making the necessary effort to advance in the field of practical life. Fortunately, what Samael Aun Weor has indicated to me many times is the need to rise spiritually. He has been very demanding, and I would not want him to be any other way in terms of inspiring my effort to work.
If we awaken through the tools his Bodhisattva provided, then we can internally receive more guidance within the superior worlds. The truth is that we have received more than enough information in order to awaken consciousness. What is necessary is to apply the methods.
Numerous students complain about a lack of illumination. The problem is that they don't meditate. If you meditate, transmute, pray, strive, realize, then you will awaken positively in order to receive a higher teaching.
We must find the Master inside, inside, inside!
The Sheikh, the Guru, the Master comes to us when we apply the methods in an effective and diligent manner. This is because the real initiates are in the internal planes, and if we want to comprehend the mysteries of heaven, we must raise our level of being.
As for leading the Gnostic Movement, he is doing it amongst different groups despite politics and conflicts between them, since one thing is the teachings of the Red Christ and another is the strife and conflict born from the egos of his disciples.
Many students look for a "physical representative" of Samael Aun Weor, an absolute authority to lead and guide all practitioners of the teaching. However, we have been aptly reminded by our teacher numerous times:
However, the studious and serious student does not get influenced or carried away by pontificates. Dedicated disciples only chose to practice and apply the teachings. That is all.
Students want the Master to come down from heaven without making the necessary effort to advance in the field of practical life. Fortunately, what Samael Aun Weor has indicated to me many times is the need to rise spiritually. He has been very demanding, and I would not want him to be any other way in terms of inspiring my effort to work.
If we awaken through the tools his Bodhisattva provided, then we can internally receive more guidance within the superior worlds. The truth is that we have received more than enough information in order to awaken consciousness. What is necessary is to apply the methods.
Numerous students complain about a lack of illumination. The problem is that they don't meditate. If you meditate, transmute, pray, strive, realize, then you will awaken positively in order to receive a higher teaching.
We must find the Master inside, inside, inside!
The Sheikh, the Guru, the Master comes to us when we apply the methods in an effective and diligent manner. This is because the real initiates are in the internal planes, and if we want to comprehend the mysteries of heaven, we must raise our level of being.
As for leading the Gnostic Movement, he is doing it amongst different groups despite politics and conflicts between them, since one thing is the teachings of the Red Christ and another is the strife and conflict born from the egos of his disciples.
Many students look for a "physical representative" of Samael Aun Weor, an absolute authority to lead and guide all practitioners of the teaching. However, we have been aptly reminded by our teacher numerous times:
When the disciple is ready, the Master appears.The Bible even reminds us of this fact:
“Beware of false prophets.” Do not accept external Masters in the physical plane.
Learn how to travel in the Astral Body, and when you are skillful in the Astral, choose an authentic Master of Major Mysteries of the White Brotherhood and consecrate unto him the most absolute devotion and the most profound respect.
You must walk with much care in the physical world, since there are many false prophets. Do not accept external orders from anyone; you must only obey the commands that “we” give you in the Astral Plane. -Samael Aun Weor, The Zodiacal Course
Children of God... Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor ofThe Ummah, the community of Islam, split and fractured itself due to politics. The same has happened within Gnosis, with many disciples claiming to be the true representative of Samael Aun Weor.
the will of man, but of God. - John 1:13
However, the studious and serious student does not get influenced or carried away by pontificates. Dedicated disciples only chose to practice and apply the teachings. That is all.
For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami
Accepted Answer
In my interactions with the Master, he has always indicated for me the need to rise to a higher level of being. When asking him why he could not come to me physically, he clearly pointed out my error and instructed me about my laziness!
Students want the Master to come down from heaven without making the necessary effort to advance in the field of practical life. Fortunately, what Samael Aun Weor has indicated to me many times is the need to rise spiritually. He has been very demanding, and I would not want him to be any other way in terms of inspiring my effort to work.
If we awaken through the tools his Bodhisattva provided, then we can internally receive more guidance within the superior worlds. The truth is that we have received more than enough information in order to awaken consciousness. What is necessary is to apply the methods.
Numerous students complain about a lack of illumination. The problem is that they don't meditate. If you meditate, transmute, pray, strive, realize, then you will awaken positively in order to receive a higher teaching.
We must find the Master inside, inside, inside!
The Sheikh, the Guru, the Master comes to us when we apply the methods in an effective and diligent manner. This is because the real initiates are in the internal planes, and if we want to comprehend the mysteries of heaven, we must raise our level of being.
As for leading the Gnostic Movement, he is doing it amongst different groups despite politics and conflicts between them, since one thing is the teachings of the Red Christ and another is the strife and conflict born from the egos of his disciples.
Many students look for a "physical representative" of Samael Aun Weor, an absolute authority to lead and guide all practitioners of the teaching. However, we have been aptly reminded by our teacher numerous times:
However, the studious and serious student does not get influenced or carried away by pontificates. Dedicated disciples only chose to practice and apply the teachings. That is all.
Students want the Master to come down from heaven without making the necessary effort to advance in the field of practical life. Fortunately, what Samael Aun Weor has indicated to me many times is the need to rise spiritually. He has been very demanding, and I would not want him to be any other way in terms of inspiring my effort to work.
If we awaken through the tools his Bodhisattva provided, then we can internally receive more guidance within the superior worlds. The truth is that we have received more than enough information in order to awaken consciousness. What is necessary is to apply the methods.
Numerous students complain about a lack of illumination. The problem is that they don't meditate. If you meditate, transmute, pray, strive, realize, then you will awaken positively in order to receive a higher teaching.
We must find the Master inside, inside, inside!
The Sheikh, the Guru, the Master comes to us when we apply the methods in an effective and diligent manner. This is because the real initiates are in the internal planes, and if we want to comprehend the mysteries of heaven, we must raise our level of being.
As for leading the Gnostic Movement, he is doing it amongst different groups despite politics and conflicts between them, since one thing is the teachings of the Red Christ and another is the strife and conflict born from the egos of his disciples.
Many students look for a "physical representative" of Samael Aun Weor, an absolute authority to lead and guide all practitioners of the teaching. However, we have been aptly reminded by our teacher numerous times:
When the disciple is ready, the Master appears.The Bible even reminds us of this fact:
“Beware of false prophets.” Do not accept external Masters in the physical plane.
Learn how to travel in the Astral Body, and when you are skillful in the Astral, choose an authentic Master of Major Mysteries of the White Brotherhood and consecrate unto him the most absolute devotion and the most profound respect.
You must walk with much care in the physical world, since there are many false prophets. Do not accept external orders from anyone; you must only obey the commands that “we” give you in the Astral Plane. -Samael Aun Weor, The Zodiacal Course
Children of God... Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor ofThe Ummah, the community of Islam, split and fractured itself due to politics. The same has happened within Gnosis, with many disciples claiming to be the true representative of Samael Aun Weor.
the will of man, but of God. - John 1:13
However, the studious and serious student does not get influenced or carried away by pontificates. Dedicated disciples only chose to practice and apply the teachings. That is all.
For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami
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