Wednesday, 24 September 2014
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Why is it said that Astrology is not important for the path of self realization? If we know that the hermetic axiom, "As above so below", rings ever true throughout eternity, shouldn't the knowledge of the stars be very accurate about our interior self? Obviously I am not referring to astronomy but the ancient science of Astrology.

Samael talks about the importance of going to the interior temples of the planets and speaking with the planetary genii.. But, really, and sadly, most painfully, how many "individuals" of this vile humanity actually have the ability to do this when we need guidance? We are VILE WORMS, miserable slugs in the mud of the earth. Most vile worms can't astral project; let alone, can't even feel the presence of the inner being. And i do understand we need to work towards those things. I understand that we need psychological death most importantly.
From my understanding, astrology is mathematics and mathematics as well as grammar are the language of God. Therefore, how can astrology be of little value to self realization? To me, astrology seems to be scripture written in the stars.. The true language of the gods. So, why is it said that astrology with squares and triangle is useless? Cant these mathematic realities (squares triangles etc) reveal hidden information that may not be so clear to us..? and thus help lead to to comprehension and understanding i.e.; self knowledge thus promoting death of the self and deeper comprehension of the inner mysteries?


It should be clear that I am not referring to internet astrology where you input your information(although it is mathematics). But I refer to knowledge of the Adam Kadmon in the sky (mathematics)that is reflected within each and every "individual". Each of the singular and splendid placements of the stars and planets at a given date of our "birth" impregnates the human soul and magnetic field with a particular magnetism and light and virtues etc that are attributed to these planets stars and constellations etc. Of course the virtues are obfuscated, due to our sleep... However, AS ABOVE, SO BELOW.
Thus, how can we say that Astrology, that most Ancient and Sacred of Sciences is USELESS?
8 years ago
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#7789
Accepted Answer
Listen to me properly:

The planetary hours, as they come in the astrological annuals and texts of astrology in general, are false and absurd because the present calendar is false and absurd. Ancient people did not use the much boasted about and curious hours of modern astrologers.

The ancient sages considered the day as a cross within a perfect circle. These old contemplators of the stars, with their scrutinizing eyes, penetrated profoundly into the mysteries of the stars and received the enlightenment of the planetary Gods. Those old astrologers learned from the Gods that the day is divided into four parts, like a cross within the perfect circle.

They knew that each day was governed by only four out of the seven planets (according to the old order): Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

The first quarter of the day is governed by the planet of the day that carries its name, and the second, third, and fourth quarters of the day develop according to the order of the planets: Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

So, Monday corresponds to the modern Sunday, and the present Saturday is the seventh day.

The following illustration presents the authentic planetary order:

For those who do not know the planetary signs, we explain them to you as follows:

Moon: ☽
Mercury: ☿
Venus: ♀
Sun: ☉
Mars: ♂
Jupiter: ♃
Saturn: ♄

....Leave us in peace, mathematical astrologers, we are already tired of your errors; burn all that jargon of logarithms, ephemeris, tables of houses, etc.!

Now, we are only interested in the paladins of the new era, the enlightened astrologers who know how to talk with the sidereal Gods. We are already bored with so much theory, and we are going to the “grain,” to what is “effective,” to what is “real.” We do not want more blind astrologers, sustained by the crutches of numbers!

We are now only interested in the clairvoyants of the stars, the priests of the sidereal temples, the sages of Aquarius.- Samael Aun Weor


references

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

8 years ago
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#7746
We don't, since esoteric astrology is one thing, and the astrology propounded by the public is completely different.

Please see the following resources below!
8 years ago
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#7747
I have studies those lectures and read the Practical Astrology book and Samael is very clear about "Astrology with squares and triangles" being useless.
Maybe they are useless for a master who can astral project at will every time they wish to do so. But what about the rest of this wretched and vile humanity that only posses lunar rags?
The astrology propounded by the public is one of Mathematics. I am not talking about your sunday horoscope in the newspaper; I am referring to a natal chart. How can it be that a natal chart is considered useless?
My question is, how can it be useless? Especially for those of us who can't astral project and visit a temple on another planet.?
If Astrology is Math and Math is the language of God, how can it be useless for the psychological work?
8 years ago
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#7750
The Roman Catholics adulterated this legitimate calendar, and based on this falsification, a modern astrology of arithmetic has been erected. It is logical then that modern astrology, which is sustained on a false foundation, is a true failure. - Samael Aun Weor, Zodiacal Course
Mathematics may be the language of God, but it is unlikely that wrong or faulty math is an accurate representation of His Word.

The same holds true for Kabbalah, and Samael Aun Weor warns about this very clearly:
There are two kinds of Kabbalists: intellectual Kabbalists and intuitive Kabbalists. The intellectual Kabbalists are black magicians. The intuitive Kabbalists are white magicians. - Samael Aun Weor
Kabbalah is also the "language of God" (and it also relates to numbers), however that language can be used to say false things, and can actually lead us astray if we approach the study of it incorrectly.

Really, anything that becomes a bottle for the mind is worse than useless.

Samael Aun Weor is not denigrating astrology. He is warning against the false understanding of astrology that is prevalent today.
8 years ago
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#7788
However, astrology hails from atlantis and is based on the ecliptic and the position of the sun and hence is eternally fixed and does not change. It is heliocentric, Furthermore, the books of the ancient masters of astrological sciences, such as: Marcus Manilius, Julius Firmicus Maternus, Ptolemy, Hephaistio of Thebes etc, are based on the position of the stars and sun and not the calendar. Whether the calendar was changed by the romans or any other fools at such and such a date, appears to be inconsequential or trivial at most.

Furthermore, if the dates are wrong, then why does he give them in the astrology book?
8 years ago
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#7789
Accepted Answer
Listen to me properly:

The planetary hours, as they come in the astrological annuals and texts of astrology in general, are false and absurd because the present calendar is false and absurd. Ancient people did not use the much boasted about and curious hours of modern astrologers.

The ancient sages considered the day as a cross within a perfect circle. These old contemplators of the stars, with their scrutinizing eyes, penetrated profoundly into the mysteries of the stars and received the enlightenment of the planetary Gods. Those old astrologers learned from the Gods that the day is divided into four parts, like a cross within the perfect circle.

They knew that each day was governed by only four out of the seven planets (according to the old order): Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

The first quarter of the day is governed by the planet of the day that carries its name, and the second, third, and fourth quarters of the day develop according to the order of the planets: Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

So, Monday corresponds to the modern Sunday, and the present Saturday is the seventh day.

The following illustration presents the authentic planetary order:

For those who do not know the planetary signs, we explain them to you as follows:

Moon: ☽
Mercury: ☿
Venus: ♀
Sun: ☉
Mars: ♂
Jupiter: ♃
Saturn: ♄

....Leave us in peace, mathematical astrologers, we are already tired of your errors; burn all that jargon of logarithms, ephemeris, tables of houses, etc.!

Now, we are only interested in the paladins of the new era, the enlightened astrologers who know how to talk with the sidereal Gods. We are already bored with so much theory, and we are going to the “grain,” to what is “effective,” to what is “real.” We do not want more blind astrologers, sustained by the crutches of numbers!

We are now only interested in the clairvoyants of the stars, the priests of the sidereal temples, the sages of Aquarius.- Samael Aun Weor


references

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

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