Monday, 25 August 2014
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In the audio lecture The Gnostic Moses the instructor says something along the lines of the reason You see aging gnostics who have the Elixir of Long Life is because that Elixir is for the spirit and not the physical body which is of "the black dragon." But Samael states in The Revolution of Beelzebub that "A Master can preserve his physical body for millions of years because he possesses the Elixir of Long Life, which resides in the Kundalini. The Master engenders his own body daily, by means of his Kundalini. Thus, the cells of the body of a Master never wither, because the fire of the Kundalini does not allow them to do so." Please explain this.

Also, in the same book, Samael states "In the dawn of life, the Four Thrones emanated from their own life-source millions of human bodies in an embryonic state. These human bodies were developed through the ages. Now they are our marvelous physical bodies, which are made from the mud of the earth." If there are billions of intellectual animals alive today, how did these millions of embryonic human bodies produce the billions of physical bodies that we see today?

Thank You
7 years ago
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#7570
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The Gnostic Moses is a whole course, so I'm not sure exactly which lecture in that series you are referring to (or where in the lecture that quote is).

So without knowing precisely what that instructor said, I'll give my take on what (I believe) he meant.

First of all, understand that there is more than one type of Resurrection, and more than one type of immortality.

Most of us are mortal, both in our physical bodies and our internal bodies. But there is a type of immortality that is attained upon engendering the solar bodies.

Whosoever possesses the Astral and Mental bodies becomes absolutely immortal.
- Samael Aun Weor, Alchemy and Kabbalah


But even those who have those solar bodies engendered can still die physically. Their immortality is in the world of the astral and mental planes. But they still have immortality in those planes, and that would be my guess as to what that instructor was referring to.

However, at a much later stage of the path, it is also possible to attain immortality in the physical body, but in order for this to occur, the physical body has to die.

Does that make sense?

As for your second question, previously existing human organisms create new organisms through the process of sex.

But I'm guessing you already knew that. :)

When he says "These human bodies were developed through the ages," he doesn't mean that the physical bodies you see today are precisely those same bodies that were emitted in an embryonic state at the dawn of life. He means that they evolved through the ages, and through successive generations, to create the present human bodies.

There is a chapter in Cosmic Teachings of a Lama called the "The Panspermia of Arrhenius" that explains this process. I also recommend reading the chapter "Evolution and Devolution" in the same book, for further understanding.
7 years ago
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#7570
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The Gnostic Moses is a whole course, so I'm not sure exactly which lecture in that series you are referring to (or where in the lecture that quote is).

So without knowing precisely what that instructor said, I'll give my take on what (I believe) he meant.

First of all, understand that there is more than one type of Resurrection, and more than one type of immortality.

Most of us are mortal, both in our physical bodies and our internal bodies. But there is a type of immortality that is attained upon engendering the solar bodies.

Whosoever possesses the Astral and Mental bodies becomes absolutely immortal.
- Samael Aun Weor, Alchemy and Kabbalah


But even those who have those solar bodies engendered can still die physically. Their immortality is in the world of the astral and mental planes. But they still have immortality in those planes, and that would be my guess as to what that instructor was referring to.

However, at a much later stage of the path, it is also possible to attain immortality in the physical body, but in order for this to occur, the physical body has to die.

Does that make sense?

As for your second question, previously existing human organisms create new organisms through the process of sex.

But I'm guessing you already knew that. :)

When he says "These human bodies were developed through the ages," he doesn't mean that the physical bodies you see today are precisely those same bodies that were emitted in an embryonic state at the dawn of life. He means that they evolved through the ages, and through successive generations, to create the present human bodies.

There is a chapter in Cosmic Teachings of a Lama called the "The Panspermia of Arrhenius" that explains this process. I also recommend reading the chapter "Evolution and Devolution" in the same book, for further understanding.
7 years ago
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#7584
Nicodemus, You're meticulous! Thank You so much!

This makes sense. Its like when The Master's physical body died in the columbian mountains.

We're so blessed to have The Master's teachings and this forum. So blessed.
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