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  Tuesday, 06 August 2013
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Some family members who are "close" to me who are supposed to love me are 100% wrapped up in the dogma of the Catholic Church and as a result are also worshiping medical science and they despise me terribly for sharing this Gnostic Wisdom that they refuse to speak with me about even as I've earned a degree in Philosophy (woa, big deal right...) and they throw Samael's Perfect Books in the trash . . . . . after I've suffered terribly to earn them...........

They brand me with the stigma of a mental illness(Bipolar Disorder, Manic Depression) for speaking of Divine Faculties and such simple things like Meditation(after being alienated by many at university and more) and then they've thrown me into psychiatric hospitals, yet I quote Meditation from the Holy Bible(that they supposedly read) and they still deny even the basic necessity of reading the teachings of the Buddha Shakyamuni.

Shantideva Bodhisattava, "What is the use of family members who cause suffering?"

This is precisely what I am dealing with every day.

Then, when I have mentioned remedies for suffering that Samael has taught us, they want me to stop being so "crazy" and be forced to take psychiatric medications more through involuntary hospitalization as I suffer more for them....

I am working very hard to end this cycle of being hated by my own abusive family members and repulsive medical doctors, but when does it stop? What do I do? All they want to do is pump me full of medications that absolutely destroy my memory and my attempts at dream yoga are failures, being a Cancerian, the emotions in the family are rotten and they hate me, fear me...........

I destroy all of the medications and they bring more and more..........

Pray for patience, meditate meditate meditate........ ? Yes. I shall do this and what else?
10 years ago
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#4187
Accepted Answer
I do not know what were the exact circumstances involving your hospitalization, but if you would like advice regarding this matter, it would be helpful to know the specific events surrounding it so we could provide better guidance. This is not something that should be discussed on a forum, but if you would like to speak with an instructor who has experience in these matters, you may write to chicago [at] gnosticteachings.org.

Anger, frustration and resistance only breeds conflict. Comprehension resolves everything. We do not know your specific case, or whether it is necessary for you to take medications. However, by developing cognizance of the situation, you will be better equipped to help not only yourself, but your family. It's important to remember that family, even if they are misguided, only intend the best for your well being. Therefore, to struggle against them and to harbor resentment is very problematic, since it will only deepen suffering for both parties.

Definite resolutions can be made, whether or not to be on medication, but that takes comprehension and (this is very important) compassion for yourself and your loved ones. The truth is, despite what many "gnostic" instructors and "practitioners" may think, allopathic or main stream medicine may be a definite solution for certain cases, especially in relation with psychological and emotional traumas of an extreme degree, such as schizophrenia, manic depressive and bi-polar disorder. However, each case should be evaluated individually through an open-minded approach, meaning: both patient and doctors should evaluate what are the options for each specific case, including both holistic and conventional medicinal approaches. This is ideal, but not always practical or possible.

If family members do not accept other forms of medicine, then you must accept that. Respect their will. I do not know what could have provoked your situation, where your family threw away your gnostic books. However, it can be assumed that something must have caused such an event to concern your family to act in such a way, even if it is disrespectful to you. What's essential is that you work with your family and stop putting up a barrier, because that will only strengthen their antagonism and conviction that your diagnosed illness is exacerbated by your spiritual studies.

You need to see their point of view and work with that, to accept that they do not agree with your spirituality, and to comprehend that they associate Gnosis with an illness. Truthfully, the only way they could come to this conclusion is due to your behavior, so you must analyze yourself in depth, with great sincerity. It is extremely important to be honest with yourself. Perhaps you did something wrong? What could have happened on your part to provoke such an experience? These are concrete events that need to be analyzed, since we do not live within a vacuum. The truth is that we attract what we are inside; so if your family is against you, you need to be truthful and take responsibility for your actions. Because deep down, your family probably feels that they are victims.

Try to see their point of view, since your family will always be your family and it is crucial to know how to fulfill your duties in relation with them. The requisite of any genuine spiritual teaching is to fulfill one's daily responsibilities. If a son, be a good son. If a husband, be a good husband. If a wife, fulfill one's role towards family, friends and society. This is essential. If there is conflict, to the extent that there are hospitalizations, forced medications, burning or removal of personal belongings, something is very wrong. Although these are horrible and extreme events, it is necessary not to judge, condemn or blame others, since the truth is that if we knew how to live correctly, we would minimize a lot of unnecessary conflicts, arguments and personal situations of great suffering, whether relating to a psychological disorder or not.

To reiterate, we could guide you better by speaking with you more personally, since we are ignorant of the details of your situation. Therefore you can write to the above mentioned email address and get in contact with an instructor who specializes in these cases and who can provide much more detailed guidance for your situation. Please write to the above email address, since this individual knows a lot more about such cases than I. We are only writing to immediately address your concerns, but please respond as soon as you can so you can receive the help that you need.

Inverential Peace!

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

10 years ago
·
#4187
Accepted Answer
I do not know what were the exact circumstances involving your hospitalization, but if you would like advice regarding this matter, it would be helpful to know the specific events surrounding it so we could provide better guidance. This is not something that should be discussed on a forum, but if you would like to speak with an instructor who has experience in these matters, you may write to chicago [at] gnosticteachings.org.

Anger, frustration and resistance only breeds conflict. Comprehension resolves everything. We do not know your specific case, or whether it is necessary for you to take medications. However, by developing cognizance of the situation, you will be better equipped to help not only yourself, but your family. It's important to remember that family, even if they are misguided, only intend the best for your well being. Therefore, to struggle against them and to harbor resentment is very problematic, since it will only deepen suffering for both parties.

Definite resolutions can be made, whether or not to be on medication, but that takes comprehension and (this is very important) compassion for yourself and your loved ones. The truth is, despite what many "gnostic" instructors and "practitioners" may think, allopathic or main stream medicine may be a definite solution for certain cases, especially in relation with psychological and emotional traumas of an extreme degree, such as schizophrenia, manic depressive and bi-polar disorder. However, each case should be evaluated individually through an open-minded approach, meaning: both patient and doctors should evaluate what are the options for each specific case, including both holistic and conventional medicinal approaches. This is ideal, but not always practical or possible.

If family members do not accept other forms of medicine, then you must accept that. Respect their will. I do not know what could have provoked your situation, where your family threw away your gnostic books. However, it can be assumed that something must have caused such an event to concern your family to act in such a way, even if it is disrespectful to you. What's essential is that you work with your family and stop putting up a barrier, because that will only strengthen their antagonism and conviction that your diagnosed illness is exacerbated by your spiritual studies.

You need to see their point of view and work with that, to accept that they do not agree with your spirituality, and to comprehend that they associate Gnosis with an illness. Truthfully, the only way they could come to this conclusion is due to your behavior, so you must analyze yourself in depth, with great sincerity. It is extremely important to be honest with yourself. Perhaps you did something wrong? What could have happened on your part to provoke such an experience? These are concrete events that need to be analyzed, since we do not live within a vacuum. The truth is that we attract what we are inside; so if your family is against you, you need to be truthful and take responsibility for your actions. Because deep down, your family probably feels that they are victims.

Try to see their point of view, since your family will always be your family and it is crucial to know how to fulfill your duties in relation with them. The requisite of any genuine spiritual teaching is to fulfill one's daily responsibilities. If a son, be a good son. If a husband, be a good husband. If a wife, fulfill one's role towards family, friends and society. This is essential. If there is conflict, to the extent that there are hospitalizations, forced medications, burning or removal of personal belongings, something is very wrong. Although these are horrible and extreme events, it is necessary not to judge, condemn or blame others, since the truth is that if we knew how to live correctly, we would minimize a lot of unnecessary conflicts, arguments and personal situations of great suffering, whether relating to a psychological disorder or not.

To reiterate, we could guide you better by speaking with you more personally, since we are ignorant of the details of your situation. Therefore you can write to the above mentioned email address and get in contact with an instructor who specializes in these cases and who can provide much more detailed guidance for your situation. Please write to the above email address, since this individual knows a lot more about such cases than I. We are only writing to immediately address your concerns, but please respond as soon as you can so you can receive the help that you need.

Inverential Peace!

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

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