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Could someone please explain/define, from the gnostic point-of-view, the term 'dialectic'.

Thanks.
9 years ago
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#3464
Accepted Answer
Dialectic traditionally means a "discussion and reasoning by dialogue as a method to resolve disagreement and reveal the truth." It can also indicate "logical argumentation" and "any formal system of reasoning and thought."

We study four types of dialectic within the Gnostic Doctrine.
  1. Eikasia - sleep without dreams
  2. Pistis - sleep with dreams
  3. Dianoia - awakened consciousness
  4. Nous - illuminated consciousness

Eikasia is ignorance, human cruelty, barbarism, exceedingly profound sleep, a brutal and instinctive world, an infrahuman state.

Pistis is the world of opinions and beliefs. Pistis is belief, prejudices, sectarianism, fanaticism, theories in which there does not exist any type of direct perception of the Truth. Pistis is that level of Consciousness of the common humanity.

Dianoia is the intellectual revision of beliefs, analysis, conceptual synthesis, cultural-intellectual Consciousness, scientific thought etc. Dianoetic thought studies phenomena and establishes laws. Dianoetic thought studies the inductive and deductive systems with the purpose of using them profoundly and clearly.

Nous is perfect awakened Consciousness. Nous is the state of Turiya: profound perfect inner illumination. Nous is legitimate objective clairvoyance. Nous is intuition. Nous is the world of the divine archetypes. Noetic thought is synthetic, clear, objective, illuminated.

-Samael Aun Weor, The Perfect Matrimony


Dianoia, Self-remembering, Self-observation, and the awakened state of conscious perception, initiates a true revolution within our interior. This indicates a change in our previous concepts about psychology, identity, nature, the cosmos, etc., based upon internal investigations within the amphitheater of cosmic science.

Dianoia indicates a type of cultural synthesis that balances intellectual study with practice, whereby one comes to comprehend from experience the great truths propounded in the scriptures, thereby revising self-concept, self-image and identity. Where before an individual bore the image of the earthly, one comes to gradually assimilate the image of the heavenly within, to quote Paul of Tarsus (Master Hilarion IX) from Corinthians.

The revolution of the consciousness is crowned with the full development of Nous, Christ-consciousness. Nous is the awakened consciousness illuminated by God. It is the incarnation of God within. This is the height of our aspirations, whereby one exchanges the dialectic of a human being into the dialectic of a Superman.

Examine these passages by the Master Hilarion IX. Bear in mind that the natural man is the image of psyche, Dianoia, the third state of consciousness. The spiritual man or Superman bears the consciousness of Christ, Nous. Psyche must become illuminated by the spirit, pneuma, which is accomplished through the great mysteries (alchemy and myein, the science of meditation).

Howbeit we speak wisdom (σοφία sophia) among them that are perfect: yet not the σοφία sophia of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

But we speak the σοφία sophia of God in a mystery (μυστήριον mystērion, from the Greek myein, "to close the eyes" through meditation), [even] the hidden σοφία sophia, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him (through awakening their consciousness).

But God hath revealed [them] unto us by his Spirit (πνεῦμα pneuma): for the πνεῦμα pneuma searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the πνεῦμα pneuma of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the πνεῦμα pneuma of God.

Now we have received, not the πνεῦμα pneuma of the world, but the πνεῦμα pneuma which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's σοφία sophia teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man (ψυχικός psychikos ἄνθρωπος anthrōpos) receiveth not the things of the πνεῦμα pneuma of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

For who hath known the mind (νοῦς nous) of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the νοῦς nous of Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:6-16


All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of (solar) men, another flesh of beasts (fornicators), another of fishes (disciples of transmutation who work with the sperm, the nun, the fish), [and] another of birds (arhats who have dominated the mind and have become birds).

[There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.

[There is] one glory of the sun (Christ, the Superman), and another glory of the moon (the Bodhisattva), and another glory of the stars (Ain Soph): for [one] star differeth from [another] star in glory (in accordance with the Six Levels of Objective Reasoning of the Being).

So also [is] the resurrection of the (psychologically) dead. It is sown in corruption (since we are all born fornicators); it is (alchemically) raised in incorruption (through purity in sex):

It is sown in dishonour (because we are filthy with ego); it is raised in glory (through chaste transmutation in marriage): it is sown in weakness (since the mind is frail); it is raised in power (through the will of the Holy Spirit and the annihilation of the ego):

It is sown a natural body (σῶμα ψυχικόν Soma Psychikos); it is raised a spiritual body (σῶμα πνευματικόν Soma Pneumatikos). There is a natural body (σῶμα ψυχικόν Soma Psychikos), and there is a spiritual body (πνευματικόν Soma Pneumatikos).

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul (ψυχή psychē, in Dianoia), the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit (πνεῦμα pneuma, Nous).

Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural (ψυχικός psychikos, Dianoia); and afterward that which is spiritual (πνευματικός pneumatikos, Nous).

The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.

As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly.

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly (through the three factors for the revolution of the consciousness: sanctity, chastity and charity).

-1 Corinthians 15:39-49

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

9 years ago
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#3464
Accepted Answer
Dialectic traditionally means a "discussion and reasoning by dialogue as a method to resolve disagreement and reveal the truth." It can also indicate "logical argumentation" and "any formal system of reasoning and thought."

We study four types of dialectic within the Gnostic Doctrine.
  1. Eikasia - sleep without dreams
  2. Pistis - sleep with dreams
  3. Dianoia - awakened consciousness
  4. Nous - illuminated consciousness

Eikasia is ignorance, human cruelty, barbarism, exceedingly profound sleep, a brutal and instinctive world, an infrahuman state.

Pistis is the world of opinions and beliefs. Pistis is belief, prejudices, sectarianism, fanaticism, theories in which there does not exist any type of direct perception of the Truth. Pistis is that level of Consciousness of the common humanity.

Dianoia is the intellectual revision of beliefs, analysis, conceptual synthesis, cultural-intellectual Consciousness, scientific thought etc. Dianoetic thought studies phenomena and establishes laws. Dianoetic thought studies the inductive and deductive systems with the purpose of using them profoundly and clearly.

Nous is perfect awakened Consciousness. Nous is the state of Turiya: profound perfect inner illumination. Nous is legitimate objective clairvoyance. Nous is intuition. Nous is the world of the divine archetypes. Noetic thought is synthetic, clear, objective, illuminated.

-Samael Aun Weor, The Perfect Matrimony


Dianoia, Self-remembering, Self-observation, and the awakened state of conscious perception, initiates a true revolution within our interior. This indicates a change in our previous concepts about psychology, identity, nature, the cosmos, etc., based upon internal investigations within the amphitheater of cosmic science.

Dianoia indicates a type of cultural synthesis that balances intellectual study with practice, whereby one comes to comprehend from experience the great truths propounded in the scriptures, thereby revising self-concept, self-image and identity. Where before an individual bore the image of the earthly, one comes to gradually assimilate the image of the heavenly within, to quote Paul of Tarsus (Master Hilarion IX) from Corinthians.

The revolution of the consciousness is crowned with the full development of Nous, Christ-consciousness. Nous is the awakened consciousness illuminated by God. It is the incarnation of God within. This is the height of our aspirations, whereby one exchanges the dialectic of a human being into the dialectic of a Superman.

Examine these passages by the Master Hilarion IX. Bear in mind that the natural man is the image of psyche, Dianoia, the third state of consciousness. The spiritual man or Superman bears the consciousness of Christ, Nous. Psyche must become illuminated by the spirit, pneuma, which is accomplished through the great mysteries (alchemy and myein, the science of meditation).

Howbeit we speak wisdom (σοφία sophia) among them that are perfect: yet not the σοφία sophia of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

But we speak the σοφία sophia of God in a mystery (μυστήριον mystērion, from the Greek myein, "to close the eyes" through meditation), [even] the hidden σοφία sophia, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him (through awakening their consciousness).

But God hath revealed [them] unto us by his Spirit (πνεῦμα pneuma): for the πνεῦμα pneuma searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the πνεῦμα pneuma of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the πνεῦμα pneuma of God.

Now we have received, not the πνεῦμα pneuma of the world, but the πνεῦμα pneuma which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's σοφία sophia teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man (ψυχικός psychikos ἄνθρωπος anthrōpos) receiveth not the things of the πνεῦμα pneuma of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

For who hath known the mind (νοῦς nous) of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the νοῦς nous of Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:6-16


All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of (solar) men, another flesh of beasts (fornicators), another of fishes (disciples of transmutation who work with the sperm, the nun, the fish), [and] another of birds (arhats who have dominated the mind and have become birds).

[There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.

[There is] one glory of the sun (Christ, the Superman), and another glory of the moon (the Bodhisattva), and another glory of the stars (Ain Soph): for [one] star differeth from [another] star in glory (in accordance with the Six Levels of Objective Reasoning of the Being).

So also [is] the resurrection of the (psychologically) dead. It is sown in corruption (since we are all born fornicators); it is (alchemically) raised in incorruption (through purity in sex):

It is sown in dishonour (because we are filthy with ego); it is raised in glory (through chaste transmutation in marriage): it is sown in weakness (since the mind is frail); it is raised in power (through the will of the Holy Spirit and the annihilation of the ego):

It is sown a natural body (σῶμα ψυχικόν Soma Psychikos); it is raised a spiritual body (σῶμα πνευματικόν Soma Pneumatikos). There is a natural body (σῶμα ψυχικόν Soma Psychikos), and there is a spiritual body (πνευματικόν Soma Pneumatikos).

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul (ψυχή psychē, in Dianoia), the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit (πνεῦμα pneuma, Nous).

Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural (ψυχικός psychikos, Dianoia); and afterward that which is spiritual (πνευματικός pneumatikos, Nous).

The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.

As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly.

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly (through the three factors for the revolution of the consciousness: sanctity, chastity and charity).

-1 Corinthians 15:39-49

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

9 years ago
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#3494
To add (with some comments in parentheses):

Samael Aun Weor, The Perfect Matrimony: The Eskimos of the North

The subject matter about the fourth dimension and a sacred land within this fourth dimension at the North Pole, may make the learned ignoramuses laugh. Indeed, they have not studied all the dimensions of space. It is unfortunate that mathematics cannot define the dimensions of space. “Every mathematical expression always corresponds to a realization of realities.” This is how one thinks with formal logic. Fortunately though, a dialectic logic exists, this would permit us to use mathematics in order to define the six fundamental dimensions of the universe.

Generally, the dimensions are represented by powers: the first, second, third, fourth, etc. It was precisely this that provided a base for Hinton to construct his famous theory of tesseracts, or tetra-dimensional solids [(A4), A raised to the fourth power]. This is the representation of dimensions in the form of powers. Many authors consider that mathematics have nothing to do with dimensions, because there is no difference between the dimensions. This concept appears false to us. We believe that the difference between dimensions is obvious, and that the entire universe is made up according to the law of numbers, measure, and weight. What happens is that whilst the mind is bottled up in formal logic, we will limit the use of mathematics to the three dimensional world. We urgently need dialectic logic in order to be able to consider the representation of dimensions by powers as something logical. This is only possible dialectically with dialectic logic (the awakened and illuminated consciousness, or Dianoia and Nous respectively).

Metageometry studies “superior space.” Metageometry is destined to totally replace Euclidean geometry. Indeed, Euclidean geometry only serves to investigate the properties of a particular physical space. However, if we want to abandon the study of the fourth vertical, it is obvious that physics will be halted in its progress.

The vital secret of all mechanics is found in the fourth coordinate.

Metageometry has the merit of considering the three dimensional world as a section of a superior space. A point from the tridimensional space is only a section or slice of a metageometrical line. With formal logic, it is impossible to consider metageometric lines as distances between points in our space. Thus, it is impossible to represent them by forming figures in our space. Nevertheless, with dialectic logic, metageometric lines have distances between points of our space, and we can represent them with figures and qualities. Therefore, it is not absurd to state that the continent of the North Pole belongs to the fourth dimension. Neither would it be an absurdity at the light of the dialectic logic thought to affirm that this continent is inhabited by people who have physical bodies. We can even design a map of this continent and this would be accepted by dialectic logic. Formal logic on the other hand, besides considering our affirmations an absurdity, would veritably lead us into error.

Indeed, the tridimensionality of the world exists in our psyche, in our receptive apparatus. It is also in our psyche where we can all find the marvels of the supradimensional, if we develop clairvoyance, clairaudience, etc., that is to say, if we perfect our psychic apparatus. We can study the superior dimensions of Nature only through the development of our powers of inner perception...

[...]

...On one occasion, a famous penologist stated, “To discover truth we have to renounce logic.” In part, this lawyer spoke the truth, but partially he did not. Indeed, we have to renounce formal logic (Pistis), but not (Dianoetic) logic, because logic is the art of correct thinking. If we stop thinking correctly (in the Spirit), clearly we fall into the absurd. In his Critique of Pure Reasoning, Emmanuel Kant showed us the path of transcendental logic. Prior to Bacon and the famous Aristotle, in the archaic scriptures of the sacred land of the Vedas, formulae for a superior logic (Dianoia and Nous) were already given. These formulae were written in very ancient books. This logic is dialectic logic. This is intuitive logic, the logic of ecstasy, the logic of the infinite (the conscious state of Turiya). This logic existed long before deductive or inductive logic were formulated. When the human being dominates this marvelous key of the mind called dialectic logic, he can then open the mysterious door of the world of natural causes (Nirvana) without the risk of falling into error. The axioms of dialectic logic can only be formulated during ecstasy (or Supra-conscious Samadhi, the consciousness of Christ, Nous).

If, indeed we want to deeply comprehend the multidimensional world and visit the sacred land of the Gods situated in the northern polar cap, we urgently need to hurl everything out from within the temple of our mind, hurl all the intellectual idols that have become axioms. We need to emancipate the mind, to liberate it from formal logic, which is only good for Moliere and his caricatures.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

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