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  Thursday, 21 March 2013
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I've been impelled to ask you these questions, they came to mind while listening to some of your lectures.

Responses, like always are very much respected and appreciated, thank you for the wonderful lectures and for creating the temporary space where we can all collaborate on the teachings.

Once again to keep things organized I've numbered the questions:

1) If the Absolute is reaching higher levels of self-cognizance during each Mahamanvantara-Mahapralaya then how will this affect the next exhalation, when the universe is once again manifested into relative existence?

2-3) The Absolute is said to be infinite, its border nowhere while its center everywhere, how can it possibly perfect itself, or reach total absolute self-cognizance when there will be a "hierarchy" of totally realized and lesser realized atoms? Do the helpers of self-cognizance (Masters) ever develop further, far beyond helping sentient beings in the manifested worlds, such as entering into the Absolute and going further?

4-5) It appears that there is no end to the Mahamanvantaras or Mahapralayas, it is an infinite cycle which conveniently reminds us of the symbol in which the snake is eating its tail, is this not just another form of vicious cycle? Is it mechanical just as other cycles are?

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6-7) It was stated that the Gods and Goddesses are not perfect because in their depths they still harbor ego. We know that the primary ego is lust, how do the Gods reside in the heavenly realms while they still have ego's of lust? I had the impression that the Gods do not fornicate at all, or is it that they just do not act on it?

8-9) If the lunar bodies are feminine then are the solar bodies masculine? Are those without solar bodies basically female forms or can they appear as males like we see here in Malkuth?

10) Since the Absolute is unknowable to itself, then to me it seems that it will never reach total realization, is it possible that the Absolute is just a medium for another higher level of existence? For example, its opposite, the tree of life is a medium of relative existence. The tree of life in one way appears to be feminine in relation to the Absolute, just as each Sephirah is in relation to the one above.. If this question did not make sense, please let me know and I will try to clarify it further.
11 years ago
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1) With every Mahamanvantara, there is a greater harvest of solar men. Therefore, the Absolute is becoming more cognizant of Itself, as you know. The angels of this epoch will teach the intellectual animals of the next, and so on throughout the Mahakalpas.

2-3) Since the Absolute is endless, there is no end to objective knowledge. To quote one Sufi Master, "The journey to God is short. The journey in God is infinite." We have to remember that throughout this divine cycle, new Monads emerge from the Absolute into the universe in order to attain Paramartha and Paranishpanna. Since there is no end to the emergence of new Monads throughout the dawn of every cosmic day, there shall never be a complete "time" where every Monad has attained divine cognizance.

Those Monads that complete the work attain Paramartha and Paranishpanna. In accordance with the will of Kether and Adi-Buddha, they may enter the Unmanifested Absolute in order to continue their development, but as "beginners" to an entirely new path of spiritual evolution that is far beyond the comprehension even of the Gods.

4-5) The cycle of cosmic days and nights is a source of suffering for all beings, including the Gods who remain entangled within Karma (Katancia).

When the heart of this solar system began to palpitate after the profound night of the great Pralaya, thereupon the Gods from the dawn began to weep.

Remember, son of mine, that the Gods also err. Those divine Elohim wrote their erratum on the cosmic page of the past day.

Wouldst thou comprehend now the motive, the real cause of the universe, the vital secret of the conscious life, the desire for life?

When the dawn was dawning, I saw the Causal Logos moving upon the face of the waters.

“Do not begin the dawn of the Mahamanvantara yet!” cried the Holy Gods amidst their sobs.

Useless was their begging, vain their lament. Occasionally, the great Being stopped for a while in order to read the Karma from those resplendent children of the dawn.

These poor children prayed, they cried a lot, as did their Mother with fervour. Hence, everything remained in silence. Then, amidst the quenched sobs of the waves, only the rumour of existence was heard.

-Samael Aun Weor, Cosmic Teachings of a Lama



Therefore, in order to escape this cyclic suffering, the Elohim must balance their cosmic account before the Great Law in order to gain the right to enter the אין Ain, the Nothingness or Limiless Joy of Adi-Buddha, free from the mortifying shackles of the law. To become an Elohim is one thing, but to enter the bosom of Aelohim, the Unmanifest, is another.

6-7) "Gods" is a relative term, since there are levels amongst the divine hierarchies. This is represented by the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. There are the Gods of Nirvana or Nirvani Buddhas who, while having attained Mastery, still have not attained perfection in Mastery, meaning the complete annihilation of the ego.

Only the Resurrected Masters have no ego. This is accomplished at the height of the Second Mountain. Although such perfected beings have no ego, there is still the possibility of temptation through the solar mind and by engaging in the sexual act against the will of the Father, which can lead to a fall. Study The Three Mountains and the lecture entitled The Archeus by Samael Aun Weor for a deeper understanding of this subject.

8-9) Sex is relative with the internal vehicles. While lunar bodies are feminine in that they belong to nature, the solar bodies are masculine in that they embody the power of the solar logos. However, even the solar bodies are feminine in relation to the Internal Christ, since these are merely the vehicles through which the Lord can express Himself.

As for the appearance of the solar bodies of a divine being, that depends upon the will of the Inner Master. Different initiates, whether male or female, will always appear in a manner conducive to the learning of the disciple upon invocation. If it means taking on a feminine form, they will do so, and vice versa, so as to teach what the aspirant needs to know about himself. Appearances within the internal planes are more symbolic and psychological than literal.

10) The Absolute will always be "The Great Breath Profoundly Unknowable to Itself," since the Absolute has no limit and must always seek to know Its intimate nature. For a deeper understanding of this teaching, listen to the ocean of Uncreated Light in Das Rheingold by the Gnostic Master Richard Wagner.


Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

11 years ago
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#3367
Accepted Answer
1) With every Mahamanvantara, there is a greater harvest of solar men. Therefore, the Absolute is becoming more cognizant of Itself, as you know. The angels of this epoch will teach the intellectual animals of the next, and so on throughout the Mahakalpas.

2-3) Since the Absolute is endless, there is no end to objective knowledge. To quote one Sufi Master, "The journey to God is short. The journey in God is infinite." We have to remember that throughout this divine cycle, new Monads emerge from the Absolute into the universe in order to attain Paramartha and Paranishpanna. Since there is no end to the emergence of new Monads throughout the dawn of every cosmic day, there shall never be a complete "time" where every Monad has attained divine cognizance.

Those Monads that complete the work attain Paramartha and Paranishpanna. In accordance with the will of Kether and Adi-Buddha, they may enter the Unmanifested Absolute in order to continue their development, but as "beginners" to an entirely new path of spiritual evolution that is far beyond the comprehension even of the Gods.

4-5) The cycle of cosmic days and nights is a source of suffering for all beings, including the Gods who remain entangled within Karma (Katancia).

When the heart of this solar system began to palpitate after the profound night of the great Pralaya, thereupon the Gods from the dawn began to weep.

Remember, son of mine, that the Gods also err. Those divine Elohim wrote their erratum on the cosmic page of the past day.

Wouldst thou comprehend now the motive, the real cause of the universe, the vital secret of the conscious life, the desire for life?

When the dawn was dawning, I saw the Causal Logos moving upon the face of the waters.

“Do not begin the dawn of the Mahamanvantara yet!” cried the Holy Gods amidst their sobs.

Useless was their begging, vain their lament. Occasionally, the great Being stopped for a while in order to read the Karma from those resplendent children of the dawn.

These poor children prayed, they cried a lot, as did their Mother with fervour. Hence, everything remained in silence. Then, amidst the quenched sobs of the waves, only the rumour of existence was heard.

-Samael Aun Weor, Cosmic Teachings of a Lama



Therefore, in order to escape this cyclic suffering, the Elohim must balance their cosmic account before the Great Law in order to gain the right to enter the אין Ain, the Nothingness or Limiless Joy of Adi-Buddha, free from the mortifying shackles of the law. To become an Elohim is one thing, but to enter the bosom of Aelohim, the Unmanifest, is another.

6-7) "Gods" is a relative term, since there are levels amongst the divine hierarchies. This is represented by the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. There are the Gods of Nirvana or Nirvani Buddhas who, while having attained Mastery, still have not attained perfection in Mastery, meaning the complete annihilation of the ego.

Only the Resurrected Masters have no ego. This is accomplished at the height of the Second Mountain. Although such perfected beings have no ego, there is still the possibility of temptation through the solar mind and by engaging in the sexual act against the will of the Father, which can lead to a fall. Study The Three Mountains and the lecture entitled The Archeus by Samael Aun Weor for a deeper understanding of this subject.

8-9) Sex is relative with the internal vehicles. While lunar bodies are feminine in that they belong to nature, the solar bodies are masculine in that they embody the power of the solar logos. However, even the solar bodies are feminine in relation to the Internal Christ, since these are merely the vehicles through which the Lord can express Himself.

As for the appearance of the solar bodies of a divine being, that depends upon the will of the Inner Master. Different initiates, whether male or female, will always appear in a manner conducive to the learning of the disciple upon invocation. If it means taking on a feminine form, they will do so, and vice versa, so as to teach what the aspirant needs to know about himself. Appearances within the internal planes are more symbolic and psychological than literal.

10) The Absolute will always be "The Great Breath Profoundly Unknowable to Itself," since the Absolute has no limit and must always seek to know Its intimate nature. For a deeper understanding of this teaching, listen to the ocean of Uncreated Light in Das Rheingold by the Gnostic Master Richard Wagner.


Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

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