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  Monday, 28 August 2023
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Hello dears

I have a question please, I read that Samael said whoever goes to Bermuda Triangle, they will live in the fourth dimension right away and encouraged the audience asker to do so if he has the courage.

What happens after that? do they live forever there? do their egos get eliminated automatically?

Appriciate your answer very important to me, God bless you all.
9 months ago
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#29586
Accepted Answer
The fourth dimension is not somewhere else, some other world, it is right here, right now, but more subtle. Your physical senses cannot perceive it, but you are already in that dimension, as well as the fifth, sixth, etc. So, even if you were to withdraw from the physical world, you would remain exactly as you are right now. Moving from dimension to dimension does not change your psychological condition.

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor

9 months ago
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#29562
[quotePost id="29561"]Hello dears

The courage? Well, what I'd like to know is this, why are there so many accounts of people sailing in and out of the bermuda triangle without being sucked into another world???? Are they being barred from entering? Is the portal open only at specifics points in time? (Moments in a year or month or whatever)? Or, is there not a portal at all and is this another thing that Samael was wrong about?

Because let's be honest. He's believed a few things only to disregard them later on in his life. He has demonstrated the ability to be wrong about things. Can an instructor verify whether he's wrong or right about the Bermuda triangle being a guarantee into another world?

As for the oriignal poster, I believe he is referring to the information in this link https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/lectures-by-samael-aun-weor/analysis-of-the-mind

Instructors, Samael made it seem so simple like, 'just go to the bermuda triangle and you'll enter into a vastly superior world to this one that you'll never want to leave, just go and you'll never want to come back' Is this true?
9 months ago
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#29563
[quotePost id="29561"]Hello dears

The courage? Well, what I'd like to know is this, why are there so many accounts of people sailing in and out of the bermuda triangle without being sucked into another world???? Are they being barred from entering? Is the portal open only at specifics points in time? (Moments in a year or month or whatever)? Or, is there not a portal at all and is this another thing that Samael was wrong about?

Because let's be honest. He's believed a few things only to disregard them later on in his life. He has demonstrated the ability to be wrong about things. Can an instructor verify whether he's wrong or right about the Bermuda triangle being a guarantee into another world? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9lVNzyhYnc Youtuber MrBeast went into the bermuda triangle but admittedly, not deep within. Can you give me exact instructions/coordinates to enter the portal in the Bermuda? It's no good to just say 'go to the bermuda triangle' because clearly the ENTIRE thing is not a portal. Maybe just small parts of it.

As for the oriignal poster, I believe he is referring to the information in this link https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/lectures-by-samael-aun-weor/analysis-of-the-mind

Instructors, Samael made it seem so simple like, 'just go to the bermuda triangle and you'll enter into a vastly superior world to this one that you'll never want to leave, just go and you'll never want to come back' Is this true?
9 months ago
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#29567
Thank you Alphonse for asking the hard questions and vocalising doubts. I too have similar doubts about certain inconsistencies or perceived logical fallacies that I wish to clear up. This does not mean I do not have faith in the teachings and I still have great respect and reverence for the master. I think it's good to cultivate open and honest discussion of these things
9 months ago
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#29575
It is not that the entire region is a portal. Under water somewhere in the "triangle", there is an Atlantean device for moving objects between dimensions (or more than one?) that intermittently works. Someone who can see the fourth dimension can see when it is operational. Such devices can be found all over the world. Some are large, some are small. None are obvious to the physical senses.

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor

9 months ago
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#29578
It is not that the entire region is a portal. Under water somewhere in the "triangle", there is an Atlantean device for moving objects between dimensions (or more than one?) that intermittently works. Someone who can see the fourth dimension can see when it is operational. Such devices can be found all over the world. Some are large, some are small. None are obvious to the physical senses.


I see, this makes alot more sense. Thank you for you response Instructor Alexis. However, since Samael Aun Weor recommended people to enter the fourth dimension through the bermuda triangle, do you think Glorian could provide accurate instructions? Unfortuantely, Samael Aun Weor did not go into much detail on this matter.

I mean, when exactly to go through the bermuda triangle, the precise co-ordinates, etc etc. Or better yet, how about Glorian schedules a trip through the portal when it is operational? I'd gladly pay for such an opportunity! And I am almost certain that many other folks would too. Instead of Glorian scheduling retreats to this or that country, how about Glorian schedules a retreat into another world for once?

Let the amateurs and novices of the spiritual path get first hand experience of these magical worlds for once... Would that be so wrong?

Anyway, thank you for explaining this topic in a clear way.
9 months ago
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#29581
I have heard that Samael Aun Weor was considering such a trip, but his wife pointed out what a bad idea that was. He agreed.

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor

9 months ago
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#29584
For Samael he didn't bother going there because he knew he is not going to come back after death, but for us who wants to escape suffering, supposedly we became able to know where the devices are and when they are working, after moving there, would that be forever and egos get eliminated automatically or we spend thousands of earthly years for example there and come back again to eliminate the egos?

In all cases, it's a win win situation, who would wait to see the end of the Kaliyuga and those nuclear wars, pandemics, famines...etc enough suffering even if it's a rest, who will come with me later on the trip? :)

Appreciate your insights on this 🙏
9 months ago
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#29586
Accepted Answer
The fourth dimension is not somewhere else, some other world, it is right here, right now, but more subtle. Your physical senses cannot perceive it, but you are already in that dimension, as well as the fifth, sixth, etc. So, even if you were to withdraw from the physical world, you would remain exactly as you are right now. Moving from dimension to dimension does not change your psychological condition.

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor

9 months ago
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#29587
The fourth dimension is not somewhere else, some other world, it is right here, right now, but more subtle. Your physical senses cannot perceive it, but you are already in that dimension, as well as the fifth, sixth, etc. So, even if you were to withdraw from the physical world, you would remain exactly as you are right now. Moving from dimension to dimension does not change your psychological condition.


Even so, Samael Aun Weor clearly advised people to transition into the 4d by travelling through the bermuda triangle. So at the very least, why can't we receive exact instructions to do so? Co-ordinates, timing etc etc. It just seems so sad that he'd suggest us to do something and give minimal instructions on doing so. Like, what was the point of even suggesting such a trip to the Bermuda triangle in the first place if he won't be thorough and precise? I hope you understand what I'm getting at here....

Secondarily, even if we won't change our psychological state by moving to another dimension, maybe we just want to experience a different world regardless. Just for fun. In the same way one visits a foreign country for fun on holiday. Also, who is to say that we can't do better psychologically/spiritually if we were in a better world? This world is full of corruption and temptations and if we were in an environment that is spiritually superior, maybe we'd be better too. Maybe. Thanks for your responses anyway.
8 months ago
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#29593
The fourth dimension is not somewhere else, some other world, it is right here, right now, but more subtle. Your physical senses cannot perceive it, but you are already in that dimension, as well as the fifth, sixth, etc. So, even if you were to withdraw from the physical world, you would remain exactly as you are right now. Moving from dimension to dimension does not change your psychological condition.


Yes I understand, for example, astronauts visited the moon, NASA landed devices recording other planets, we use telescopes but we don't see extraterrestrials or djinns in those planets with our physical eyes, so it's the same place but they live in another dimension, also some live on earth but we don't see them, same as astral bodies, what so called ghosts and spirits.

Samael said "There is no bad time there", of course it's the heaven (not a place but a dimension) and we live in the prison of the galaxy (who eats the forbidden fruit, falls, come here) so how there is no bad time there although egos still there with us?

Samael also said those who disappeared and lived there will have a great help in eliminating the ego.

Also he said as per the audience asker confirmation "it's hard to get back again" and asked the student (probably in a surprised way) "why you want to get back? it's better to live there" which makes sense, no eating, no sleeping, no working, no materialiaic sex, no responsibilities, no diseases, supernatural (natural to them) powers, 3rd eye fully opened....so it's the actual heaven, right?

Worst case scenario (which I don't think) even if like the so called Nirvana or spiral path, after many mahavantaras, the monad has to come again, at least, it's better in the upcoming years to take a rest and not to attend the end of this civilization where we could eat rats and cockroaches after the insane nuclear wars.

right? :)
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1 month ago
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#30868
Why not we gather trips for anyone who wants to get rid of samsara to go near those Atlantean devices?

Also what will happen to the polarised Is or the ego?
1 month ago
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#30869
Because of karma.

Those who deserve such an opportunity will receive it. Those who do not must earn it.

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor

1 month ago
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#30873
Because of karma.

Those who deserve such an opportunity will receive it. Those who do not must earn it.


Thanks Alexis

What will happen to the polarised I or the ego after that? 🤔
1 month ago
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#30922
Any update?
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