Great Respect to the Masters,
And my respect to my dear Instructor,
I notice alot of conjurations are in Latin and Hebrew...is it wise to learn Latin and Hebrew or could we translate the conjuration to English?
Please advise when you can.
Uri
And my respect to my dear Instructor,
I notice alot of conjurations are in Latin and Hebrew...is it wise to learn Latin and Hebrew or could we translate the conjuration to English?
Please advise when you can.
Uri
Mantras and prayers are commands or requests for aid: what matters is that the intended recipient hears and understands the meaning, so it can be acted upon.
Many words or sounds in our modern languages have opposite or contradictory meanings. So if I say a word in English, that same sound has the opposite meaning in other languages: which one should apply? The meaning in my mind, or the meaning in the mind of the listener? Nature does not recognize either of them: the actual vibration of the sound creates an effect, no matter what "meanings" we have in our minds. Mantras are those root sounds: they create precise effects, and are mostly unrelated to modern languages.
For instance, if you learn a mantra from the black lodge, you may believe it is good and true, but it is not: it is black. So, your beliefs and ideas about it, your interpretation, does not matter. The pronounced mantra creates the effect that the black lodge wants.
Similarly, when you chant a mantra or prayer that is pure and good, you may not understand it or even have a clue about its meaning, but it will have its effect anyway. However, if you do know the meaning, and you invest your consciousness into each vowel, then power is magnified and extended.
Many words or sounds in our modern languages have opposite or contradictory meanings. So if I say a word in English, that same sound has the opposite meaning in other languages: which one should apply? The meaning in my mind, or the meaning in the mind of the listener? Nature does not recognize either of them: the actual vibration of the sound creates an effect, no matter what "meanings" we have in our minds. Mantras are those root sounds: they create precise effects, and are mostly unrelated to modern languages.
For instance, if you learn a mantra from the black lodge, you may believe it is good and true, but it is not: it is black. So, your beliefs and ideas about it, your interpretation, does not matter. The pronounced mantra creates the effect that the black lodge wants.
Similarly, when you chant a mantra or prayer that is pure and good, you may not understand it or even have a clue about its meaning, but it will have its effect anyway. However, if you do know the meaning, and you invest your consciousness into each vowel, then power is magnified and extended.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
There is no need to learn the languages. The prayers are retained in those languages because their sounds are closer to the root mantra sounds. The mantras create effects in nature. Your intellectual understanding of the prayer is good, but can be had simply by studying the prayer. More important is the effect is has. That is why we recommend using the prayers in their given languages.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
i still fine this difficult with me when making my prayers or the conjuration as well, i do understand what you are trying to educate on the aspect of the two languages, i think i have to follow what you just said and be more effective and focus on the effect of it then. thanks
Mantras and prayers are commands or requests for aid: what matters is that the intended recipient hears and understands the meaning, so it can be acted upon.
Many words or sounds in our modern languages have opposite or contradictory meanings. So if I say a word in English, that same sound has the opposite meaning in other languages: which one should apply? The meaning in my mind, or the meaning in the mind of the listener? Nature does not recognize either of them: the actual vibration of the sound creates an effect, no matter what "meanings" we have in our minds. Mantras are those root sounds: they create precise effects, and are mostly unrelated to modern languages.
For instance, if you learn a mantra from the black lodge, you may believe it is good and true, but it is not: it is black. So, your beliefs and ideas about it, your interpretation, does not matter. The pronounced mantra creates the effect that the black lodge wants.
Similarly, when you chant a mantra or prayer that is pure and good, you may not understand it or even have a clue about its meaning, but it will have its effect anyway. However, if you do know the meaning, and you invest your consciousness into each vowel, then power is magnified and extended.
Many words or sounds in our modern languages have opposite or contradictory meanings. So if I say a word in English, that same sound has the opposite meaning in other languages: which one should apply? The meaning in my mind, or the meaning in the mind of the listener? Nature does not recognize either of them: the actual vibration of the sound creates an effect, no matter what "meanings" we have in our minds. Mantras are those root sounds: they create precise effects, and are mostly unrelated to modern languages.
For instance, if you learn a mantra from the black lodge, you may believe it is good and true, but it is not: it is black. So, your beliefs and ideas about it, your interpretation, does not matter. The pronounced mantra creates the effect that the black lodge wants.
Similarly, when you chant a mantra or prayer that is pure and good, you may not understand it or even have a clue about its meaning, but it will have its effect anyway. However, if you do know the meaning, and you invest your consciousness into each vowel, then power is magnified and extended.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
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