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  Monday, 08 May 2023
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Dear Instructors,

In a few instances you have mentioned Freemasons in a spiritual context. I am struggling to understand their true motives as there have been (and still are) members behind wars and even genocides. What is your view of Freemasonic groups?

Why a group of people (even if they follow some spiritual tradition) decides what is “good” for humanity?

I am also struggling to justify the word’s “1%” who are after power and money and who are “concerned” and want to “help” others live, which often is a disservice to the humanity. However, any attempt to make their actions be revealed is labelled as a “theory of conspiracy”. Of course I am not taking about spreading hate, fear and misinformation but sometimes there are genuinely honest people, and what they say helps to avoid making wrong decisions.
3 months ago
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#29284
Accepted Answer
The light manifests throughout distinct time periods, cultures, messengers, and groups. When messengers pass, traditions calcify, and groups degenerate, the light moves on, reinvigorating new souls, messengers, and groups who aspire towards light.

Freemasonry was one such tradition that was enlivened by the light, but eventually died. The light has moved on.

While the gnostic tradition is striving to maintain and develop light, there are many people in the movement who do not want to create light, but strengthen their darkness.

Rather than creating light in themselves, such persons seek to steal light from others, because they cannot create. These are not isolated members or a small faction of the population. This is our entire humanity and the majority of "spiritual" groups.

Therefore, it is incongruous to blame a dead religion as the cause of humanity's ailments. All of us are demons of the worst class, who cause the world's genocides, wars, and conflagrations because we refuse to create light in ourselves.

Do not believe me? Meditate and observe yourself to see if you are free of those egos.

All of us are members of the black lodge so long as we have ego. In one moment we may remember our Divine Mother. But in the next a demon takes over. Light battles the darkness in Arcanum 18: Twilight.

Divinity also respects our will, because the light is not a tyrant. These horrible things happen because we allow them and perpetuate them for our own benefit, ignoring the consequences.

The worst conspiracy is our own mind and heart, which refuses to see that we are demons who want to steal light rather than to be baptized and inflamed by it.

Also, if you live in North America, you are part of the 1%, because you have privileges that people from many parts of the world are killing and stealing to acquire. However, that soon will change, because the law of the pendulum swings.

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

I have been thinking about this exact question today. Are the wars and genocides managed by divine forces? People (freemason) send each other (the nations) to war, yes, but the whole situation is managed internally by individuals of the white lodge and black lodge?

for example, there is a conspiracy that the civil war is actually genocide. and that the war was created to mask what it really was, a small group of people killing a large group of people. all war is genocide anyways. How would that situation be managed? Those people(of the nations) who have war in them are attracted to the war that the 1% enable. And who enables that 1% to create the situation for war? the Angelic hosts?
3 months ago
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#29219
Please any views, instructors?
3 months ago
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#29222
https://glorian.org/connect/ask-instructor/28225-political-polarization-and-idiocy#reply-28245

Although I think that it was Dion Fortune who said that spiritual-aspirants can even have more sexual longings than most materialist intellectualists; although I don’t think that that would negate Samael Aun Weor’s above point
3 months ago
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#29223
Aren't they just demons and their followers doing what they do? We are so asleep and degenerative it's easy for them to influence us and gain lot of power here. Perhaps we also have a lot of karma to pay.
3 months ago
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#29225
Hell, the Devil, and Karma:


”Respectable sir, those who have profoundly studied the Masonry of Ragon or Leadbeater know very well that occult esoteric Masonry existed not only under the porticoes of the temple of Jerusalem but also in ancient Egypt and in submerged Atlantis. Regrettably, in the age of Kali Yuga or the Iron Age in which we currently find ourselves, such honorable institution has entered into the descendent, devolving circle.

“Nevertheless, it is cleaar that in the future great Root Race—precisely when the powerful esoteric civilizations of the past resurrect—that honorable institution will have to fulfill a brilliant mission. So, we do not deny the divine origin of that institution.

“We know that the seven Cosmocreators officiated with holy liturgy at the dawning of the great day, when they fecundated the chaotic matter so that life could spring. From century to century, throughout the different cosmic rounds, the workshops became each time denser and denser, until finally reaching the state in which they are currently found.

“We recommend the Masonic brothers to study in depth the esotericism of Solomon and the divine wisdom of the land of the Pharaohs. It is necessary, it is urgent, for the Masonic brothers to not fall into the Marxist-Leninist skepticism, into that dialectic for fools. Let the Masonic brothers not pronounce themselves against divinity, because this, besides being contrary to their esoteric order of divine origin, will inevitably lead them to the seventh Dantesque circle, the tenebrous region of the violent against God.”


— Samael Aun Weor
I was looking into the question and I think the answers samael aun weor are the best. ;) seriously. The answer this tradition give are on another level!!

Really though, your question might be vague.
It might be better to ask what is the true motive of a specific freemason and/or a specific event and how does that event incorporate into a more broader event or context. But I really like this topic and would like to know what you think your answer to your question is.

... after searching around I found this website/book which I think answers the idea of your question (about a small group of people deciding what is best for the majority of others and how does that relate to the internal world.

https://thewisdomtradition.substack.com/p/the-mysteries-then-and-now


"The Mystery Schools and the Invisible Government
An examination of the hidden institution behind human evolution..."

"...In this article, we will be exploring one of the most important topics in Esoteric philosophy: the purpose and function of the Mystery Schools and their role in the unfoldment of world civilization..."
3 months ago
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#29284
Accepted Answer
The light manifests throughout distinct time periods, cultures, messengers, and groups. When messengers pass, traditions calcify, and groups degenerate, the light moves on, reinvigorating new souls, messengers, and groups who aspire towards light.

Freemasonry was one such tradition that was enlivened by the light, but eventually died. The light has moved on.

While the gnostic tradition is striving to maintain and develop light, there are many people in the movement who do not want to create light, but strengthen their darkness.

Rather than creating light in themselves, such persons seek to steal light from others, because they cannot create. These are not isolated members or a small faction of the population. This is our entire humanity and the majority of "spiritual" groups.

Therefore, it is incongruous to blame a dead religion as the cause of humanity's ailments. All of us are demons of the worst class, who cause the world's genocides, wars, and conflagrations because we refuse to create light in ourselves.

Do not believe me? Meditate and observe yourself to see if you are free of those egos.

All of us are members of the black lodge so long as we have ego. In one moment we may remember our Divine Mother. But in the next a demon takes over. Light battles the darkness in Arcanum 18: Twilight.

Divinity also respects our will, because the light is not a tyrant. These horrible things happen because we allow them and perpetuate them for our own benefit, ignoring the consequences.

The worst conspiracy is our own mind and heart, which refuses to see that we are demons who want to steal light rather than to be baptized and inflamed by it.

Also, if you live in North America, you are part of the 1%, because you have privileges that people from many parts of the world are killing and stealing to acquire. However, that soon will change, because the law of the pendulum swings.

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

Almustafa selected the reply #29284 as the answer for this post — 2 months ago
This is really quite interesting in regards to what is the true motive of war.. it comes from the chapter human problems, in Revolution of the Dialectic.

"...these wars are the outcome of certain cosmic waves in action and that the armies on the battlefield move like automatic puppets under the dynamic impulse of those unknown forces..."




" ... The cunning and repugnant Luciferic intellect creates problems, yet it is not capable of resolving them. Many theories exist which resolve nothing and complicate everything. The vital problems of existence continue as always. Meanwhile the world is very close to the Third World War. ... In this day and age of worldly crisis, the “know it alls” who want to resolve everything (yet resolve nothing) are very abundant.

The “know-it-alls” harm the fruits of the earth with their absurd hybrids. They also infect children with their vaccines of tuberculosis, poliomyelitis, typhoid, etc. Those “know-it-alls” boast of knowing everything, yet they know nothing. They cause harm with everything that they have created and they boast of being sapient. The mind creates problems which it is not capable of resolving. The game of the mind is in bad taste.

It is true today (as it was yesterday) that the poor human biped (like a wretched and miserable simian) is nothing more than a mechanical toy that is moved about by forces which he ignores.

Any cosmic event, any sidereal catastrophe, produces certain types of waves. Thereafter, these waves are captured by the unhappy animal mistakenly called a human being; he then converts them into world wars where millions of human machines unconsciously launch themselves to the stupid task of destroying millions of other human machines.

The comic and the tragic always walk side by side. Thus, the comical things of this situation are the flags, the mottoes and all the phrases which are invented by all of those unconscious machines. They proclaim that they are going to war because they have to defend democracy, freedom, their country, etc.

The great thinkers who are known in the world as journalists (the prostitutes of intelligence) ignore that these wars are the outcome of certain cosmic waves in action and that the armies on the battlefield move like automatic puppets under the dynamic impulse of those unknown forces..." -Human problem, Samael aun weor
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