Disciple: Venerable master, many people, for example, have been told that it is not necessary, for example, to practice runes, or meditation, because we are in the end of times and we only simply have to eliminate the ego. But then, you tell us, that meditation is very important, but out there we are told that we should not meditate. then, what can we do?
Samael Aun Weor: Who told you such bestialities?
Disciple: Such things were said by Joaquin Amortegui. I have them recorded on my tape recorder. He said two things are not needed, neither meditation nor fasting.
Disciple: Not even Lent...
Samael Aun Weor: The truth is this, in these studies, without meditation, one does not take a single step...
Disciple: So, forgive me for interrupting you..., I'm going to ask you these questions in order to be able to counteract an action spread from the temple of La Sierra Nevada in which J.A. says: “I awakened without meditating, therefore meditation is not needed, what one needs is courage..." Also fasting. At Christmas J.A. spoke out against fasting, but then I saw that you sent from Venezuela nine people to fast. I remained silent and said, "This is going to form an outburst, because J.A. says that fasting is not needed and the master sends nine to fast"... So, in the very core there, they want to explode, but they do not dare to explode because there is an iron hand that does not allow them to explode; and they ask me and I tell them: "Meditate and fast; fast, because we have all felt fasting good and we have passed it"...
I myself meditated in the Sierra Nevada. When I went to tell you what I saw, then you didn't let me, you told me: "That's for you, don't talk." Thus, I did not speak. and thus, to many who have wanted to tell me the wonders they feel and see, I have not allowed them to do so.
J. A. also said, that of the Gnostic books, the only ones that serve are four, he also said, that the others do not work. I brought a lot of questions; I bring annotations out there. Anyway, I think, then, that the only one who can correct these things is you, master…
"The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant." -Maximilien Robespierre
Samael Aun Weor: In any case I have to tell you that meditation is fundamental, one cannot advance an inch in these studies without meditation.
The question is similar to that which our sister asked before. Listen, there are 49 levels and in each level there are many aggregates hidden in many corners of that level. As you patiently comprehend and annihilate all the aggregates on one level, then you go on to another level, and so on and so forth. So, your Divine Mother will annihilate many aggregates of that ego, related to the intellectual level, yet it still exists within you, in deeper levels. It is the same ego, but in other levels, right? So that’s why to annihilate the whole ego of lust, in the 49 levels of the mind, you have to patiently comprehend and annihilate all the aggregates of lust from the intellectual level and likewise all the way up to the 49th level. All of this is achieved through meditation, initiation, trials etc. The same process is applied to the rest of our “family,” our egos that we carry within.
Ok, it has been a few months and I now see the importance of meditation. Without it, we only get surface-level egos and change which is good. But to go deeper we need to meditate because many of these defects are beyond physicality and even intellect and emotion. And to do that, we have to uncondition ourselves from those things. Many of those who do the work of the death of the ego will see great improvements in the first year or two but then you will stagnate. If this happens to you, it is a sign to meditate and go deeper into your defects. You may have killed the defect on a surface level, but there are many more levels to the mind. Master Samael Aun Weor states that there are 49 levels. You may have stopped a behavior in the physical, but in dreams, you still do the behavior. This Is a sign to go deeper. Meditation is necessary for this. I regret not developing the skill enough. Because now when I want to meditate to go deeper, I don't get as much insight because it is not developed enough. Concentration and Imagination are necessary!
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