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  Saturday, 26 February 2022
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What is master Samael's view on physical self-defense? For example in response to tyranny.
2 years ago
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#27070
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Samael Aun Weor: The country of Tibet has been invaded, not once, but many times. On one occasion, a group that lived in holy peace — when the invasion of England [in 1903-1904], which was one of the first invasions — Tibet suffered much from that invasion. Then it was known in the country of the Lamas, there in Asia, that an English army was heading [from India] to Tibet in order to invade it. Well, of course the people gathered to take action; an army was already being organized in order to fight the invaders (the English invaders), but something unexpected happened: there was at that time in Tibet a group of seven sacred individuals. One of them, the most important, the chief, the heir of the ancient knowledge of Tsong-Khapa, presented himself in the middle of the assembly, and said, "Gentlemen, ladies, children, we have to receive the invaders with open arms. It is not right to fight anyone; they are also children of the eternal common cosmic Father. They are our brothers. We do not have to kill them. It is absurd to shed blood.” Sure, everyone respected him because he was one of the seven sacred individuals. Then, he himself promised to go out to meet the English to welcome them. And when he went to welcome them... What happened? He was shot, killed... The English continued their march. That whole invading army headed to Tibet. That was very serious. Of course, he made a very serious mistake. It would have been very easy to stop that army, easy. Notice that they had to go through such places, among mountain gorges where there is stone in quantities, it would be enough to let them reach a place there, and roll those stones down, and there would not be one left alive; they would have killed the invading army! But, this saint "screwed up," and he put the screw well into it, because the English took over Tibet, killed, looted, burned, and did everything they wanted with the people ... People who were not involved in hurting anyone were suddenly attacked by the British…

Audience: Master, that would be a misused virtue there, right?

Samael Aun Weor: A misplaced virtue. Any virtue, no matter how beautiful, if it is misplaced, causes harm. What was the most indicated there would have been to fight the invaders, to destroy them, to organize an army, to fight them, this is clear, for sure.

Audience: Does the law allow that?

Samael Aun Weor: Well, this is clear! You, as head of the family, are with your wife, with your children and everything, inside a house and all of a sudden a group of bandits come to attack, what would you do? Are you going to let your wife and children be killed?

Audience: I will beat them...

Samael Aun Weor: You will not bless them while they are raping your woman and killing your children; or are you going to say: "Oh, please bandits, look, don't do that, because karma will punish you." No! You have to defend your woman, your children, and the whole world...

Audience: Use the same weapons that they are using?

Samael Aun Weor: Your duty is to fight and even die in the fight; fighting, like the men in the battlefield. That is what you have to do.
2 years ago
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#27070
Accepted Answer
Samael Aun Weor: The country of Tibet has been invaded, not once, but many times. On one occasion, a group that lived in holy peace — when the invasion of England [in 1903-1904], which was one of the first invasions — Tibet suffered much from that invasion. Then it was known in the country of the Lamas, there in Asia, that an English army was heading [from India] to Tibet in order to invade it. Well, of course the people gathered to take action; an army was already being organized in order to fight the invaders (the English invaders), but something unexpected happened: there was at that time in Tibet a group of seven sacred individuals. One of them, the most important, the chief, the heir of the ancient knowledge of Tsong-Khapa, presented himself in the middle of the assembly, and said, "Gentlemen, ladies, children, we have to receive the invaders with open arms. It is not right to fight anyone; they are also children of the eternal common cosmic Father. They are our brothers. We do not have to kill them. It is absurd to shed blood.” Sure, everyone respected him because he was one of the seven sacred individuals. Then, he himself promised to go out to meet the English to welcome them. And when he went to welcome them... What happened? He was shot, killed... The English continued their march. That whole invading army headed to Tibet. That was very serious. Of course, he made a very serious mistake. It would have been very easy to stop that army, easy. Notice that they had to go through such places, among mountain gorges where there is stone in quantities, it would be enough to let them reach a place there, and roll those stones down, and there would not be one left alive; they would have killed the invading army! But, this saint "screwed up," and he put the screw well into it, because the English took over Tibet, killed, looted, burned, and did everything they wanted with the people ... People who were not involved in hurting anyone were suddenly attacked by the British…

Audience: Master, that would be a misused virtue there, right?

Samael Aun Weor: A misplaced virtue. Any virtue, no matter how beautiful, if it is misplaced, causes harm. What was the most indicated there would have been to fight the invaders, to destroy them, to organize an army, to fight them, this is clear, for sure.

Audience: Does the law allow that?

Samael Aun Weor: Well, this is clear! You, as head of the family, are with your wife, with your children and everything, inside a house and all of a sudden a group of bandits come to attack, what would you do? Are you going to let your wife and children be killed?

Audience: I will beat them...

Samael Aun Weor: You will not bless them while they are raping your woman and killing your children; or are you going to say: "Oh, please bandits, look, don't do that, because karma will punish you." No! You have to defend your woman, your children, and the whole world...

Audience: Use the same weapons that they are using?

Samael Aun Weor: Your duty is to fight and even die in the fight; fighting, like the men in the battlefield. That is what you have to do.
AG selected the reply #27070 as the answer for this post — 2 years ago
AG selected the reply #27070 as the answer for this post — 2 years ago
2 years ago
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#27076
Thank you. Your reply makes sense to me.

My thought was one has to fight for one's life, but at the same time submit to forces one cannot repel to experience what one must experience.
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