Monday, 17 December 2012
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Hello,

I am studying in a AGEAC unit in my city. I've learned the Conjuration of the Seven in this association. But doing some researches in the Internet, I have verified that the way I've learned is not the same as it teaches in other associations. In AGEAC we say:

In the name of Gabriel, may Adonai command thee, and drive thee hence, Belial!

On the other associations, they say:

In the name of Gabriel, may Adonai command thee, and drive thee hence, Bael!

Which version is the good one? How can I be sure that one of these versions is correct or not?

Awaiting for your response.

regards
9 years ago
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#2686
"In the name of Gabriel, may Adonai command thee, and drive thee hence, Bael!"

Bael [בעל] in Hell represents the lunar sphere of Yesod, the Moon.

Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Bael [בעל] four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at Jezebel's table. – 1 Kings 18: 19


Bael or Baal [בעל] is a demon, head of demons - the Baalim from Klipoth. Bael is the opposite of Adonai. Both names Adonai and Bael means “Lord”, yet, Bael is the lunar lord of Klipoth and Adonai is lunar lord of Malkuth.

יהוה Yĕhovah said unto אדֹנִי Adonai, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies [the Baalim] thy footstool. - Psalm 110:1


The chapter 16 verse 32 of 1 Kings in the Bible describes how Jeroboam built an altar to [בעל] Bael or Baal

“So Jeroboam erected an altar for [בעל] Baal in the house of Baal which he built in Samaria.”


Master Samael Aun Weor stated in Parasifal Unveiled the following about Baal [בעל]:
With these terribly malignant Divinities, who in the ancient continent Mu were indeed exemplar men, humanized Angels, came those who from the bordering flood of old Euphrates to the brook that parts Egypt from Syrian ground, had the undesirable names of Baal and Ashtaroth…


"Bael [בעל = lord or king of hell] is not Belial [בליעל = wickedness]" these are two different demons!

Regarding Belial [בליעל] Master Samael Aun Weor stated in Parasifal Unveiled the following:
Thereafter, continuing in a successive order came Belial from the Empyrean [Chokmah]. Indeed, there is not a Spirit who fell more impurely lewd, or more grossly inclined to love vice than this creature, who in ancient Lemurian times was certainly a Master or Angelic Guru of ineffable splendors…
This Demon, a Deity in other times, had no temples stood, nor were any consecrations offered to him at any altar; nonetheless, no one is more often than he in temples and at altars.


And there are gathered unto him vain men, the children of [בליעל] Belial. - 2 Chronicles 13:7


Master Samael Aun Weor quoted John Milton who in Paradise Lost wrote:

BELIAL came last, than whom a Spirit more lewd
Fell not from Heaven, or more gross to love
Vice for it self: To him no Temple stood
Or Altar smoak'd; yet who more oft then hee
In Temples and at Altars, when the Priest
Turns Atheist, as did ELY'S Sons, who fill'd
With lust and violence the house of God.
In Courts and Palaces he also Reigns
And in luxurious Cities, where the noyse
Of riot ascends above thir loftiest Towrs,
And injury and outrage: And when Night
Darkens the Streets, then wander forth the Childdren
Of BELIAL, flown with insolence and wine.
Witness the Streets of SODOM, and that night
In GIBEAH, when hospitable Dores
Yielded thir Matrons to prevent worse rape.


We worship Chokmah, Christ through any religious ceremony; but when we turn such a ritual into a fanatical mundane celebration, it degrades little by little and falls into the dominion of Belial. Carmina Burana "In tabernaculum quando sumus" by Carl Orff describes it very clear. Tabernaculum, Taberna = Tabernacle, Tavern.

So let us not make of Christmas Tabernaculum a Christmas Tavern!
Let us not become children of Belial!

In tabernaculum quando sumus = When we are in "Christmas" Tabernacle,
non curamus quid sit humus, = we do not think how we will go to dust,
sed ad ludum properamus, = but we hurry to gamble,
cui semper insudamus. = which always makes us sweat.
Quid agatur in taberna = What happens in the tavern,
ubi nummus est pincerna, = where money is host,
hoc est opus ut queratur, = you may well ask,
si quid loquar, audiatur. = and hear what I say.
Quidam ludunt, quidam bibunt, = Some gamble, some drink,
quidam indiscrete vivunt. = some behave loosely.
Sed in ludo qui morantur, = But of those who gamble,
ex his quidam denudantur = some are stripped bare,
quidam ibi vestiuntur, = some win their clothes here,
quidam saccis induuntur. = some are dressed in sacks.
Ibi nullus timet mortem = Here no-one fears death,
sed pro Baccho mittunt sortem: = but they throw the dice in the name of Bacchus.
Primo pro nummata vini, = First of all it is to the wine-merchant
ex hac bibunt libertini; = the the libertines drink,
semel bibunt pro captivis, = one for the prisoners,
post hec bibunt ter pro vivis, = three for the living,
quater pro Christianis cunctis = four for all Christians,
quinquies pro fidelibus defunctis, = five for the faithful dead,
sexies pro sororibus vanis, = six for the loose sisters,
septies pro militibus silvanis. = seven for the footpads in the wood,
Octies pro fratribus perversis, = Eight for the errant brethren,
nonies pro monachis dispersis, = nine for the dispersed monks,
decies pro navigantibus = ten for the seamen,
undecies pro discordaniibus, = eleven for the squabblers,
duodecies pro penitentibus, = twelve for the penitent,
tredecies pro iter agentibus. = thirteen for the wayfarers.
Tam pro papa quam pro rege = To the Pope as to the king
bibunt omnes sine lege. = they all drink without restraint.
Bibit hera, bibit herus, = The mistress drinks, the master drinks,
bibit miles, bibit clerus, = the soldier drinks, the priest drinks,
bibit ille, bibit illa, = the man drinks, the woman drinks,
bibit servis cum ancilla, = the servant drinks with the maid,
bibit velox, bibit piger, = the swift man drinks, the lazy man drinks,
bibit albus, bibit niger, = the white man drinks, the black man drinks,
bibit constans, bibit vagus, = the settled man drinks, the wanderer drinks,
bibit rudis, bibit magnus. = the stupid man drinks, the wise man drinks,
Bibit pauper et egrotus, = The poor man drinks, the sick man drinks,
bibit exul et ignotus, = the exile drinks, and the stranger,
bibit puer, bibit canus, = the boy drinks, the old man drinks,
bibit presul et decanus, = the bishop drinks, and the deacon,
bibit soror, bibit frater, = the sister drinks, the brother drinks,
bibit anus, bibit mater, = the old lady drinks, the mother drinks,
bibit ista, bibit ille, = this man drinks, that man drinks,
bibunt centum, bibunt mille. = a hundred drink, a thousand drink.
Parum sexcente nummate = Six hundred pennies would hardly
durant, cum immoderate = suffice, if everyone
bibunt omnes sine meta. = drinks immoderately and immeasurably.
Quamvis bibant mente leta, = However much they cheerfully drink
sic nos rodunt omnes gentes = we are the ones whom everyone scolds,
et sic erimus egentes. = and thus we are destitute.
Qui nos rodunt confundantur = May those who slander us be cursed
et cum iustis non scribantur. = and may their names not be written in the book of the righteous.
IO, IO, IO, IO, IO...............


Now listen!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZhwhd4yJW8

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

9 years ago
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#2692
Thank you for your answer!

This response left me quite perplexed.

The problem is that AGEAC states that the associacion is directly guided by a real Master who officiates in the internal worlds: Kwen Khan.

I asked the same question to him and he told me that, in the conjuration, it is not BAEL what we must say, but BELIAL, because that's how they say in the rituals performed in the Gnostic Church, in the internal worlds.

To me, come to suspect that the conjuration is different than the one I've learned in AGEAC, not only reveals a simple mistake, but reveals that he does not officiate in the internal worlds, and therefore he is not a master.

Could you please help me, saying if my reasoning is wrong?
9 years ago
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#2693
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/Ptolemaicsystem-small.png/583px-Ptolemaicsystem-small.png
Belial [בליעל] from the Empyrean.
Indeed, there is not a Spirit who fell more impurely lewd, or more grossly inclined to love vice than this creature, who in ancient Lemurian times was certainly a Master or Angelic Guru of ineffable splendors…
This Demon, a Deity in other times, had no temples stood, nor were any consecrations offered to him at any altar; nonetheless, no one is more often than he in temples and at altars. - Samael Aun Weor


Bael [בעל] from LUNA

"One night, while in the Astral Body, we invoked Bael. Bael [בעל] was a tenebrous king who lived in a cavern in the Gobi dessert. There he instructed his disciples. He taught the black magic of the sublunar spheres. Adonai [אדני], the Son of Light and Happiness, is his opposite. These two antitheses of philosophy are intimately related with the two rays of the Moon….

"Indeed, Bael is the head of a legion [הבעלים = the Baelim], and must be conjured in the name of his antithesis, Adonai, the Son of Light and Happiness." – Samael Aun Weor


Study this link!
http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/esoteric-treatise-of-theurgy/439-second-invocation.html

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

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