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What is this feeling? It’s not an emotion, it’s more like a “life energy”.
It’s difficult to put to words.
When I meditate I often explore my body. I feel my finger tips and the blood circulating throughout. I can feel my emotions and I can do deeper into it and hear these subconscious thoughts. When I go deeper into the psychological sensations and states I realize that everything going on inside has the same base energy. The same energy base.
I researched it and meditated on it. what is this base energy. It seems this is the very same energy which takes me to the heights and to the abyss depending on how I relate to it. I read manly p. Hall talk about how the various psycho-chemical states we experience all have the same essence. And that this essence must be transmuted. My question is what is this that I am referring to? It feels like it’s my heart or my spinal chord, but more than that it feels like this energy is the same energy that makes angels fly and demons scurry under a rock. I feel stupid asking… is it god?
It’s difficult to put to words.
When I meditate I often explore my body. I feel my finger tips and the blood circulating throughout. I can feel my emotions and I can do deeper into it and hear these subconscious thoughts. When I go deeper into the psychological sensations and states I realize that everything going on inside has the same base energy. The same energy base.
I researched it and meditated on it. what is this base energy. It seems this is the very same energy which takes me to the heights and to the abyss depending on how I relate to it. I read manly p. Hall talk about how the various psycho-chemical states we experience all have the same essence. And that this essence must be transmuted. My question is what is this that I am referring to? It feels like it’s my heart or my spinal chord, but more than that it feels like this energy is the same energy that makes angels fly and demons scurry under a rock. I feel stupid asking… is it god?
Energy is modified according to its dimensional conditioning (which level of matter it is bound to).
If you are perceiving it while still in your physical body, then you are not yet seeing what is behind that energy. One has to go far beyond the physical level to perceive the source of energy and matter. To understand that experience, it is good to study prana and the tattvas.
Study this:
If you are perceiving it while still in your physical body, then you are not yet seeing what is behind that energy. One has to go far beyond the physical level to perceive the source of energy and matter. To understand that experience, it is good to study prana and the tattvas.
Study this:
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
Energy is modified according to its dimensional conditioning (which level of matter it is bound to).
If you are perceiving it while still in your physical body, then you are not yet seeing what is behind that energy. One has to go far beyond the physical level to perceive the source of energy and matter. To understand that experience, it is good to study prana and the tattvas.
Study this:
If you are perceiving it while still in your physical body, then you are not yet seeing what is behind that energy. One has to go far beyond the physical level to perceive the source of energy and matter. To understand that experience, it is good to study prana and the tattvas.
Study this:
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
Warquarius: Age of Revolution(W.A.R.)
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Thank you so much for taking your time… every day you all answer questions. The readings you recommend are always on point. I just am really grateful for this school. Anyways…
I read through some of the text and found the answer to my question.
“The vital body has four ethers - first, the “chemical ether;” …
The second ether is the “ether of life,”..,
The third ether is called the “luminous ether,”…
And the fourth ether, that is called the “reflecting ether,”…
It’s as if I am able, while meditating, to travel around the first 2 vital ethers but not the second two. I understand that the other bodies are reflected in the ether or vital body, so maybe I understand the 4th ether. And also I am barely able to observe the mental and emotional, I always get identified and then come back ( even as I type this
But i am still all within the physical body. This is the lesson I think have just learned. I thought I was special and was leaving the physical body. But I haven’t, well not on my own will. So is there is a chemical element of the mental and emotional body? ( I’m not sure how to phrase that.)
Apropos, I have awoken in dreams. But it seems like I am afraid to be an individual. A solar man. A warrior. I think it is related to the causal world. It’s like I’m knocking at that door and I don’t want to open it because I have to face the truth, that I am responsible for everything in my life.
Any recommended reading for that? (With all due respect) Or any personal thoughts? I haven’t finished reading the last one you sent. ( Because I just realized the depth that master samael consciously puts into his sentences. His comprehension of all of this is dumbfounding and wonderful. I know the instructors say it all the time , but I experienced it for myself when I realized that this one paragraph, using simple words, explains the whole teaching. It’s just levels upon levels of understanding set up so each student can understand at their own level. But when you meditate on it you realize that he is referring to something way deeper.)
Thanks for the love and support.
I read through some of the text and found the answer to my question.
“The vital body has four ethers - first, the “chemical ether;” …
The second ether is the “ether of life,”..,
The third ether is called the “luminous ether,”…
And the fourth ether, that is called the “reflecting ether,”…
It’s as if I am able, while meditating, to travel around the first 2 vital ethers but not the second two. I understand that the other bodies are reflected in the ether or vital body, so maybe I understand the 4th ether. And also I am barely able to observe the mental and emotional, I always get identified and then come back ( even as I type this
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Apropos, I have awoken in dreams. But it seems like I am afraid to be an individual. A solar man. A warrior. I think it is related to the causal world. It’s like I’m knocking at that door and I don’t want to open it because I have to face the truth, that I am responsible for everything in my life.
Any recommended reading for that? (With all due respect) Or any personal thoughts? I haven’t finished reading the last one you sent. ( Because I just realized the depth that master samael consciously puts into his sentences. His comprehension of all of this is dumbfounding and wonderful. I know the instructors say it all the time , but I experienced it for myself when I realized that this one paragraph, using simple words, explains the whole teaching. It’s just levels upon levels of understanding set up so each student can understand at their own level. But when you meditate on it you realize that he is referring to something way deeper.)
Thanks for the love and support.
I do not know what you mean by "traveling" in the first two ethers. Those ethers are just the energetic aspects of digestion, respiration, reproduction...
The second two ethers are related to how you see images in your imagination.
When we talk about leaving the physical body, it is literally being out of that body, awake, aware, but non-physically. Most people experience this most directly when they realize that they are dreaming: they are aware of being in a dream. Usually in that instant they are so surprised that they immediately return to the physical body and wake up in their bed.
It is possible to travel in the vital body (which is composed of those four ethers), but one does not experience that as "one ether" or another.
Most people who patiently develop the ability to travel out of the body do so with their lunar astral body, since it automatically goes out every night anyway, we are just unaware of it. As I said, that experience is just like being awake and aware in your physical body: you can direct yourself to go where you wish, except that you are in the astral world, not the physical world. Being awake and aware means that this is not a vague, unclear or imaginary experience, but very clear, bright, real, and lived, even more clear and real than what you experience in your physical body.
The second two ethers are related to how you see images in your imagination.
When we talk about leaving the physical body, it is literally being out of that body, awake, aware, but non-physically. Most people experience this most directly when they realize that they are dreaming: they are aware of being in a dream. Usually in that instant they are so surprised that they immediately return to the physical body and wake up in their bed.
It is possible to travel in the vital body (which is composed of those four ethers), but one does not experience that as "one ether" or another.
Most people who patiently develop the ability to travel out of the body do so with their lunar astral body, since it automatically goes out every night anyway, we are just unaware of it. As I said, that experience is just like being awake and aware in your physical body: you can direct yourself to go where you wish, except that you are in the astral world, not the physical world. Being awake and aware means that this is not a vague, unclear or imaginary experience, but very clear, bright, real, and lived, even more clear and real than what you experience in your physical body.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
What is this feeling? It’s not an emotion, it’s more like a “life energy”.
It’s difficult to put to words.
When I meditate I often explore my body. I feel my finger tips and the blood circulating throughout. I can feel my emotions and I can do deeper into it and hear these subconscious thoughts. When I go deeper into the psychological sensations and states I realize that everything going on inside has the same base energy. The same energy base.
I researched it and meditated on it. what is this base energy. It seems this is the very same energy which takes me to the heights and to the abyss depending on how I relate to it. I read manly p. Hall talk about how the various psycho-chemical states we experience all have the same essence. And that this essence must be transmuted. My question is what is this that I am referring to? It feels like it’s my heart or my spinal chord, but more than that it feels like this energy is the same energy that makes angels fly and demons scurry under a rock. I feel stupid asking… is it god?
wow, I'm amazed you could feel all that with such detail, especially when you mention the heart and spinal chord, before having ever heard of the vital body, chi, the aether/aetheric body, yesod on the tree of life. The only thing I've ever felt was my body parts falling asleep or feeling tingling or ticklishness in various areas when astral projecting.
Energy is modified according to its dimensional conditioning (which level of matter it is bound to).
I understand that egotistical emotions vibrate slower than conscious feelings but, does that also mean that subconsciousness vibrates slower than physicality as well? I created a diagram a few years back and I originally place the subconsciousness somewhere above gamma rays and before angelic frequencies.
Nature is very sophisticated, even on the merely physical level. We certainly do not comprehend physical nature, in spite of it being right in front of our senses. Yet, this is only a fraction of nature; most of it is imperceptible to us. Therefore, the only way to accurately map such frequencies is to awaken consciousness, and become capable of conscious observation in the internal worlds. Making a diagram based on assumptions, theories or guesses will only lead to problems.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
Nature is very sophisticated, even on the merely physical level. We certainly do not comprehend physical nature, in spite of it being right in front of our senses. Yet, this is only a fraction of nature; most of it is imperceptible to us. Therefore, the only way to accurately map such frequencies is to awaken consciousness, and become capable of conscious observation in the internal worlds. Making a diagram based on assumptions, theories or guesses will only lead to problems.
Okay, thank you. I will do that. I was shown the other morning in meditation an inverted tree of life underneath the typical one, and Tara explained to me where most of us belong currently. Well, come to think of it, the posters I got from Glorian have the subconsciousness labeled underneath the physical world for intellectual understanding; totally forgot that. I was originally adding an expansion to the classical electromagnetic spectrum, providing it with subatomic ranges i.e. heaven and hell.
As you know, most of humanity is submerged, but to what degree? Well in case what she said to me might be useful for your investigation and teaching, she claims that,
"...Really, we belong to that medium, gold hell, right there." This is near or at the fifth sphere.
Then she said that, "the cardinal Cancer sign is found in the great womb of the tree." but I don't recall its placement. I thought maybe it was Tipheret, but that sphere doesn't have zodiacal ego...
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I try to be conscious of my experience and understand it with intuition. I think its better to have direct experience of understanding (even if it apparently makes no literal sense to others) rather then trying to create a map that (makes literal sense to others and)corresponds to the inner experience. ( and anyways there are plenty of maps already, the Bible is a map, and these teachings at this school are also a map. and if you think about it the being is the one who gives the intelligence to map out the internal worlds and it is given in order to show others the way too, so imagine how difficult making map is. maybe we already have the map in us as part of the objective parts of our being) When I make an analogy I try to only use the human body. Samael aun Weor said that traveling the internal worlds of the planet earth is the same as traveling the internal worlds of our own body. (Swedenborg said that existence is the body of god)... Like hell in the human body is the infernal chakras of the lower abdomen, and I can feel it when I have lower emotions like fear and lust and Samael said that hell is the entrails of the planet. I just try to be more and more sensitive to the subtle forces of my body. ( and of course I fail miserably but I won't give up. with patience we develop the soul).
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