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Hello,
I would like to ask if Glorian is the same as interior Elohim (Father-Mother), that is the Being of our Being?
Is Elohim actually the Chief of our ray (out of seven), that is our Cosmic Father (Father of our Innermost, of Spirit of God)?
Or am I misunderstanding something?
Thanks!
1 year ago
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#25362
Accepted Answer
Question: "Unmanifested First Logos" - is it Ain or Ain Soph?
Answer: Within the Unmanifested First Logos - of any Cosmocreator (Stellar Angel) - are the Second and Third Logoi
The Holy Trinity emanates from the Ain Soph, our interior Atomic Star that always smiles upon us.
1 (Ain Soph) + 3 (Trinity) = 4
(Tetragrammaton) - Samael Aun Weor



Did I misunderstood the whole three of life and it's actually like this:
Ain - Kether
Chokmah - Ain Soph
Binah - Ain Soph Aur?

Answer: It's actually like this:

Ain -
"Within the (Ain) bosom of the Absolute exists the Paramarthasattyas in great exaltation; they become exalted little by little until they pass beyond all possible comprehension." - Samael Aun Weor


Ain Soph:
The Ain Soph Paranishpanna, is the intimate Star of any Stellar Angel or Cosmocreator.

"We must make a specific differentiation between the Ain Soph and the Ain Soph Paranishpanna: in the Ain Soph, interior realization of the Self does not exist, but in the Ain Soph Paranishpanna interior realization of the Self does exist."

"All of creation emanates from the Ain Soph, but creation, in essence and in potency, is not equal to the Ain Soph.
The Ain Soph irradiates intelligence, a power by means of its divine Uncreated Light; an intelligence, a power that, if it originally participates in the perfection and infinitude of its (Ain Soph) own creed, it has a finite aspect because it is being derived from the Ain Soph.
Unto this first spiritual emanation of the Ain Soph the Kabbalah gives the name the ineffable Ancient of Days who is the Being of our Being, the Father/Mother within us.
The Ain Soph, not being able to express Itself in the limited physical plane, does it through Its “ten Sephiroth.” - Samael Aun Weor


Ain Soph Aur:
Is the Unmanifested Cosmic Christ
"Each universe in infinite space possesses its own central sun, and the addition of all of those spiritual suns constitutes the Ain Soph Aur, the Protocosmos, the Solar Absolute." - Samael Aun Weor



Question: Or is it Ain Soph Aur = Kether - Chokmah - Binah?
Answer: "It is indubitable that in the central spiritual sun (Ain Soph Aur), governed by the unique law, exists the unutterable happiness of the eternal living God (Ain Soph 1 + 3 (Trinity) = 4 (Tetragrammaton),)." - Samael Aun Weor



Question: "and every Innermost (Chesed) has its Father who engendered him; (as human souls) this is our (stellar Grand) Father who is in heaven" - Samael stated there are as many Fathers in Heaven as there are humans on Earth, but he also states that one of the Stellar Fathers (cosmocreators, Logos) engendered Innermost. There are only 7 cosmocreators in our system. Or Stellar Father and Father in Heaven are different?
Answer: Our Ain Soph 1 + 3 (Trinity) = 4 (Tetragrammaton), without interior realization is our own particular interior star, there are as many Ain Sophs in Heaven as there are humans on Earth.

4. Is Kether actually aspect of our Stellar Father? That is Kether = Stellar Father?
No it is not. Each Ain Soph has its own particular individual Kether.

5. In us, our Inner Kether, is our Glorian? Or Glorian = internal Christ?
Yes, but without Self-Realization; this is why we need the help of the Cosmocreators, in other words, "those exalted prajapatis, or divine angels (stellar angels), were the ones who endowed those unconscious rays of the Absolute with that which today we call “Monad,” or better yet, “Innermost (Chesed, our own individual Father).”

6. If inner Kether is our Glorian, can we name him great-grandfather? Or would that be wrong?
Our own particular Kether along with Chokmah and Binah, our individual Glorian, emanated from our own Ain Soph 1 + 3 (Trinity) = 4 (Tetragrammaton).

7. If we follow our grand father (Stellar Father), then we forget our inner Father and our inner great-grandfather, no?
Thanks to the assistance of our Stellar Father, our inner Father (Chesed) will Self-realize our inner particular Ain Soph or Interior Atomic Star.

8. Who Christ actually is? In one text it is written that it is Chokmah, then in another that he is Kether.
As Chokmah, "the Cosmic Christ is impersonal, universal, and is beyond individuality, personality, beyond the “I.” Yet, Christ is a cosmic force that can express through any human being who is properly prepared.
Once, the Christ (Chokmah) expressed through the great Master Jeshua ben Pandira, who is known in the physical world as the Master Jesus of Nazareth. The Christ also expressed through many other masters." - Samael Aun Weor


Master Jesus when representing Chokmah said: I (Chokmah) and my Father (Kether) are one." - John 10: 30

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

1 year ago
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#25348
“Marah, Mary, Isis, our Divine Individual Cosmic Mother, is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and the daughter of Her Son.
Marah, therefore, is a sunderable part of our own particular divine Glorian.”

“Every initiate must previously integrate himself with Elohim before integrating himself with Aelohim.
Each one of us has his own inner Elohim.
The inner Elohim is the Being of our Being.
The inner Elohim is our Father-Mother.”

“The inner Elohim is the ray that emanates from Aelohim.
Aelohim is the Omnimerciful, the Cosmic Common Eternal Father, the Abstract Absolute Space.”

Excerpt From: Samael Aun Weor. “The Gnostic Bible: The Pistis Sophia Unveiled.” iBooks.


“The Glorian is the ray who “strikes His bell” when He comes into the physical world.
The Glorian is the Law and the incognito root of the human being.
The Glorian is the Being of the Being.
The Glorian is the Law within us.
When the human being obeys the Law (the Glorian) he cannot become sick. Therefore, sickness comes because of disobedience to the Law. When the seven bodies want to act separately as if they were seven “I’s,” sickness is the outcome.
The physical and vital bodies must obey the Soul. The Soul must obey the Innermost, and the Innermost must obey the Glorian. Body, Soul, and Spirit must convert themselves into a very pure and perfect universe through which the majesty of the Glorian can be expressed.”

Excerpt From: Samael Aun Weor. “Esoteric Medicine and Practical Magic.” iBooks.


“When the heart of the solar system began to throb, after the profound night of “Pralaya,” at the beginning of the aurora of the Mahamanvantara, the Unmanifested First Logos of the great breath fecundated the Akash, and our seven planetary Logos emerged, shaping the Akash, or primordial matter, with the fire of life, in order to construct this solar system within which we are evolving.
These sublime architects of life saw that we were merely unconscious “rays” (Glorians) of the supreme Parabrahman (the eternal Father, always obscure, whom we call “the Absolute”). Those exalted prajapatis, or divine angels, were the ones who endowed those unconscious rays of the Absolute with that which today we call “Monad,” or better yet, “Innermost.”
Every human being has his Innermost, and every Innermost has its Father who engendered him; this is our Father who is in heaven.”

“Our “Glorian” is a breath, profoundly unknowable unto itself; our “Glorian” is a breath of the Absolute.”

Excerpt From: Samael Aun Weor. “Practical Astrology.” iBooks.


“In reality, the Glorian is none other than the Ray from which the Innermost (Spirit) emanated. Thus, the Glorian is substance, yet it is not Spirit, nor is it matter.
The Glorian is the Great Breath that is profoundly unknowable to itself. It is a breath from the Absolute, one of the many breaths of the Great Breath.
The Glorian is the “Atmic Thread” of the Hindus. It is the Absolute within us, our own individual Ray, the whole of our real Being made in glory.
The soul aspires for union with his Innermost, and the Innermost aspires for union with his Glorian.”

Excerpt From: Samael Aun Weor. “The Revolution of Beelzebub.” iBooks.

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

SilentWhisper selected the reply #25348 as the answer for this post — 1 year ago
1 year ago
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#25350
Thank you for this detailed answer!
I marked it as resolved, but if anyone else has anything to add I will be happy to read.
Serenity and blessings upon you!
SilentWhisper revoked the reply #25348 as the answer for this post — 1 year ago
1 year ago
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#25351
Sorry for rejecting.
I remembered one question, related to this, which I always forget to ask.
"Every human being has his Innermost, and every Innermost has its Father who engendered him; this is our Father who is in heaven.” - this Father in Heaven is a chief of our ray (Mercurian, Lunar, Venusti, etc.)?
Who is our Stellar Father then? In one I read in one of the books of master Samael that "There are as many Fathers in heaven as there are people on Earth" or "There is as many Fathers in heaven as there are stars", or something of the sorts. So then, who is who? I have a difficult time understanding all these fathers.
Stellar Father is our chief of the ray? Is it same as "Father in Heaven"?
If Father in Heaven is not chief of ray, then is it related to "Glorian" and "Elohim"? If so why did Samael wrote that "inner Elohim" is in our depths. How can He be in Heaven then? He is in us and we are not in heaven.
Who is our inner Father? As I understand this it is our Innermost. Inner Father does the will of His Father in Heaven. On other times Samael wrote that he did the will of his Stellar Father.
At times it is so confusing!
So then, to whom we actually plea when we do theurgy or incantations/invocations of high magic, white magic? "Let it be thy will, my Father, not mine" - is it inner Father? Father in Heaven? Stellar Father (chief of our ray)? From who do we actually have to ask for help when we ask for help (where to focus)? I know you focus on heart and then "up there", but from whom do you ask for help and who's will do we follow: inner Father's, Father's who is in Heaven or Stellar Father's?
This will be all.
Again sorry, but I just remembered this question, what it seems, of ages! :)
1 year ago
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#25359
When the heart of the solar system began to throb, after the profound night of “Pralaya,” at the beginning of the aurora of the Mahamanvantara, the Unmanifested First Logos of the great breath fecundated the Akash, and our seven planetary Logos emerged, shaping the Akash, or primordial matter, with the fire of life, in order to construct this solar system within which we are evolving.

These sublime architects of life saw that we were merely unconscious “rays” (Glorians or Ain Soph, Kether, Chokmah, Binah) of the supreme Parabrahman (the eternal Father, always obscure, whom we call “the Absolute”). Those exalted prajapatis, or divine angels (stellar angels), were the ones who endowed those unconscious rays of the Absolute with that which today we call “Monad,” or better yet, “Innermost (Chesed, our own individual Father).”
Every human being has his Innermost (Chesed, and Chesed has two souls, namely, Geburah and Tiphereth, in other words, the spiritual soul, and we, the human soul or embryo of soul), and every Innermost (Chesed) has its Father who engendered him; (as human souls) this is our (stellar Grand) Father who is in heaven.”

“Our “Glorian” is a breath, profoundly unknowable unto itself; our “Glorian” is a breath of the Absolute (who is our individual Ain Soph, Kether, Chokmah, Binah, who is merely an unconscious “ray of light" at the beginning of this Mahamanvantara).” Samael Aun Weor


IF we as souls attain the realization of Chesed our Monad, and Chesed the realization of our individual Ain Soph, Kether, Chokmah, Binah, with the guidance of our Stellar Father or Cosmocreator "Christ", then, our Glorian will shine as our Stellar Father forever and ever.

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

1 year ago
·
#25361
1. "Unmanifested First Logos" - is it Ain or Ain Soph?
Did I misunderstood the whole three of life and it's actually like this:
Ain - Kether
Chokmah - Ain Soph
Binah - Ain Soph Aur

2. Or is it Ain Soph Aur = Kether - Chokmah - Binah?

3. "and every Innermost (Chesed) has its Father who engendered him; (as human souls) this is our (stellar Grand) Father who is in heaven" - Samael stated there are as many Fathers in Heaven as there are humans on Earth, but he also states that one of the Stellar Fathers (cosmocreators, Logos) engendered Innermost. There are only 7 cosmocreators in our system. Or Stellar Father and Father in Heaven are different?

4. Is Kether actually aspect of our Stellar Father? That is Kether = Stellar Father?

5. In us, our Inner Kether, is our Glorian? Or Glorian = internal Christ?

6. If inner Kether is our Glorian, can we name him great-grandfather? Or would that be wrong?

7. If we follow our grand father (Stellar Father), then we foget our inner Father and our inner great-grandfather, no?

8. Who Christ actually is? In one text it is written that it is Chokmah, then in another that he is Kether.
1 year ago
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#25362
Accepted Answer
Question: "Unmanifested First Logos" - is it Ain or Ain Soph?
Answer: Within the Unmanifested First Logos - of any Cosmocreator (Stellar Angel) - are the Second and Third Logoi
The Holy Trinity emanates from the Ain Soph, our interior Atomic Star that always smiles upon us.
1 (Ain Soph) + 3 (Trinity) = 4
(Tetragrammaton) - Samael Aun Weor



Did I misunderstood the whole three of life and it's actually like this:
Ain - Kether
Chokmah - Ain Soph
Binah - Ain Soph Aur?

Answer: It's actually like this:

Ain -
"Within the (Ain) bosom of the Absolute exists the Paramarthasattyas in great exaltation; they become exalted little by little until they pass beyond all possible comprehension." - Samael Aun Weor


Ain Soph:
The Ain Soph Paranishpanna, is the intimate Star of any Stellar Angel or Cosmocreator.

"We must make a specific differentiation between the Ain Soph and the Ain Soph Paranishpanna: in the Ain Soph, interior realization of the Self does not exist, but in the Ain Soph Paranishpanna interior realization of the Self does exist."

"All of creation emanates from the Ain Soph, but creation, in essence and in potency, is not equal to the Ain Soph.
The Ain Soph irradiates intelligence, a power by means of its divine Uncreated Light; an intelligence, a power that, if it originally participates in the perfection and infinitude of its (Ain Soph) own creed, it has a finite aspect because it is being derived from the Ain Soph.
Unto this first spiritual emanation of the Ain Soph the Kabbalah gives the name the ineffable Ancient of Days who is the Being of our Being, the Father/Mother within us.
The Ain Soph, not being able to express Itself in the limited physical plane, does it through Its “ten Sephiroth.” - Samael Aun Weor


Ain Soph Aur:
Is the Unmanifested Cosmic Christ
"Each universe in infinite space possesses its own central sun, and the addition of all of those spiritual suns constitutes the Ain Soph Aur, the Protocosmos, the Solar Absolute." - Samael Aun Weor



Question: Or is it Ain Soph Aur = Kether - Chokmah - Binah?
Answer: "It is indubitable that in the central spiritual sun (Ain Soph Aur), governed by the unique law, exists the unutterable happiness of the eternal living God (Ain Soph 1 + 3 (Trinity) = 4 (Tetragrammaton),)." - Samael Aun Weor



Question: "and every Innermost (Chesed) has its Father who engendered him; (as human souls) this is our (stellar Grand) Father who is in heaven" - Samael stated there are as many Fathers in Heaven as there are humans on Earth, but he also states that one of the Stellar Fathers (cosmocreators, Logos) engendered Innermost. There are only 7 cosmocreators in our system. Or Stellar Father and Father in Heaven are different?
Answer: Our Ain Soph 1 + 3 (Trinity) = 4 (Tetragrammaton), without interior realization is our own particular interior star, there are as many Ain Sophs in Heaven as there are humans on Earth.

4. Is Kether actually aspect of our Stellar Father? That is Kether = Stellar Father?
No it is not. Each Ain Soph has its own particular individual Kether.

5. In us, our Inner Kether, is our Glorian? Or Glorian = internal Christ?
Yes, but without Self-Realization; this is why we need the help of the Cosmocreators, in other words, "those exalted prajapatis, or divine angels (stellar angels), were the ones who endowed those unconscious rays of the Absolute with that which today we call “Monad,” or better yet, “Innermost (Chesed, our own individual Father).”

6. If inner Kether is our Glorian, can we name him great-grandfather? Or would that be wrong?
Our own particular Kether along with Chokmah and Binah, our individual Glorian, emanated from our own Ain Soph 1 + 3 (Trinity) = 4 (Tetragrammaton).

7. If we follow our grand father (Stellar Father), then we forget our inner Father and our inner great-grandfather, no?
Thanks to the assistance of our Stellar Father, our inner Father (Chesed) will Self-realize our inner particular Ain Soph or Interior Atomic Star.

8. Who Christ actually is? In one text it is written that it is Chokmah, then in another that he is Kether.
As Chokmah, "the Cosmic Christ is impersonal, universal, and is beyond individuality, personality, beyond the “I.” Yet, Christ is a cosmic force that can express through any human being who is properly prepared.
Once, the Christ (Chokmah) expressed through the great Master Jeshua ben Pandira, who is known in the physical world as the Master Jesus of Nazareth. The Christ also expressed through many other masters." - Samael Aun Weor


Master Jesus when representing Chokmah said: I (Chokmah) and my Father (Kether) are one." - John 10: 30

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

1 year ago
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#25364
Thank you!
I will study this!
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