Wednesday, 07 October 2020
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Greetings Instructors!

My question is, why does Sivananda and many other Yogi's like Shankara, Vivekenanda, and Milarepa emphasize strict celibacy, and not to marry? If they teach to free other human beings from suffering why do they trick us into believing sex is bad for you? I mean look what happened to Yogananda he is trapped somewhere in purgatory and he followed all the rules, he was tricked!

It's really confusing, for example I may be established in Brahmachrya for 3 years and I'll follow V.M. Samael Aun Weor's teaching of Alchemy with my spouse, however, I am engaging in sexual intercourse, which is against thousands of years of teachings! Sivananda explains that even sexual thoughts turn ojas into physical semen and this is a waste of ojas in his Brahmacharya.

So obviously having sex, even without emission, will create physical semen in the body and will stay in the physical body as Sivananda says in Brahmacharya. Samael says we can't create the Solar Bodies without the fire (desire?) so we need to work with desire at first then eliminate it completely in the Second Mountain. Again going against thousands of years of teachings by other Yogi's. Don't get me wrong I really respect Samael teachings cause they make a lot of sense and go along other Hindu and Buddhist teachings except the Sexual Alchemy part. I'm just afraid I'll end up like Yogananda if I follow the rules of Brahmacharya. I also don't want to waste my time trying to develop Bodhichitta and also engaging in sex. Im really confused! I hope you understand.
1 year ago
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#23062
Accepted Answer
Sexuality is dual. What the yogis of various ancient schools refer to is infrasexuality: the fortification of desire through orgasm or sensual indulgence.

However, lust is not the only possible sexual expression, because it can serve to empower our deepest spirituality:
Krishna and Sex
The next passage of this scripture reads, "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of kama and raga. I am kama which is not contrary to dharma, O lord of the Bharatas [Arjuna]." Kama is another word in Sanskrit that has different subtleties. It depends on its context as to how you translate it. The truth of that is right here: he says, 'I am devoid of Kama' and in the next sentence says, 'I am Kama.' So it appears to contradict. What is Kama? Ever heard of The Kama Sutra? Kama can mean sex life, it can mean lust, and it can mean love. It can also mean chastity. So, it depends on the context. Naturally, with the mind that humanity has now, any time they see the word sex, it is lust. So, the Kama Sutra is used for lustful purposes, the world over. In fact, the only translation that is publicly available is completely adulterated. It is not the actual scripture. It is a version that was adulterated by a Westerner, in order to build up his own fame and wealth. It is completely adulterated, yet it is everywhere. It is one of those best selling books that everybody reads and thinks is a real scripture from India, but it is not. It is packed with lies. It is a text of black magic. The real Kama Sutra has been hidden.

Krishna says, 'I am the strength of the strong, devoid of Kama and Raga.' Here he is saying, "I am devoid of lust." There is no lust in Christ. There is no lust in any Buddha. Yet, humanity looks at the images of the Buddhas and Masters and sees lust, because our minds are full of lust. We see images of Krishna with his spouse, we see images of the Divinities in consort with their partners, sexually, and we see it lustfully, because our mind is like that. But the Gods have no lust. Krishna is devoid of Raga; Raga means attachment, grasping, to clutch, to pull, to hold. What is lust? Attachment to sensation. Kama and Raga work together.

He says, "I am Kama which is not contrary to Dharma." Dharma is also very difficult to translate. The name Dharma is very deep in its implications. Used in this context, it means "religious principles." But, the core of the word Dharma is "truth, reality." When we hear religious principles, we think of a dogma, some list of rules that we have to follow. That is not real religion, that is only the second law. The first law is the reality, the truth. In this level, physically, gravity is a law, it is "a Dharma." We have the Dharma of gravity. We have the Dharma of electricity, the Dharma of magnetism. These are truths, they are energies in motion that we can learn to work with, and if we ignore those Dharmas, we suffer. If you stick your finger in an electrical socket, you will get shocked, because you ignored that Dharma. Christ, Krishna, is Kama which is not contrary to Dharma – sex that is in harmony with truth, with religious principles.

To me, this is the single most important line of the entire Bhagavad Gita. Krishna says,

"I am sex which is not contrary to religion." - Bhagavad Gita 7:11

How is it that millions upon millions of people have read the Bhagavad Gita, and have become celibate? They missed this line, or it was mistranslated, or mis-explained. Krishna says here, "I am sex," so why do they renounce sex? If they want to know Krishna, if they want to know Christ, the power of creation, the power of the Gods, it is in sex. It is in the sexual seed, which is Krishna. The problem is that we do not know what Dharmic sex is. We only know lustful sex, we only know Kama with Raga, with attachment. Because of that, we misunderstand everything. So, people renounce sex, because they are trying to renounce attachment. They are trying to renounce desire. But, they are also throwing away the keys to overcoming desire. The key to conquering desire is the middle path, which is what the Buddha taught. To not renounce sex, neither to indulge in it, but walk in the middle: to engage in sex, but without lust.

Krishna says he is Kama; this image shows Kama-Deva.

https://gnosticteachings-rochen.netdna-ssl.com/images/stories/hindu/kama-deva.jpg

Deva means God. Kama-Deva means "God of Love, God of sex." In this painting we see a beautifully clothed man poised on top of a bird, and in his hands he has a bow and arrow, and the arrow is fiery. What is the fire? Sex, it is Rajas, it is passion, it is the ability to create, it is the first of the three Gunas, the first modality of Prakriti. Kama-Deva sits poised on the bird, in order to fire the fiery arrow into our hearts and minds and sex, to inspire us with the impulse to create, to love. Does this remind you of anyone? Does it look familiar? It should. Ever hear of Cupid? Eros?

https://gnosticteachings-rochen.netdna-ssl.com/images/stories/greek/eros.jpg

If you study Greek mythology, you know that one of the most primordial Gods in Greco-Roman mythology is Eros, who is not that little chubby boy who is mischievous and runs around shooting people with arrows in the cartoons. That is the same thing as the little baby Krishna stealing butter, and the little baby Jesus in the manger. It is a cute symbol, but it is only a cute symbol. Eros is hiding a very profound truth about our inner nature, and about the nature of spirituality. Eros is Krishna. Eros-Cupid is the most profound, important symbol in Greco-Roman mythology. It is right in the middle of the Eleusinian Mysteries, which were the most important mystery school of the Greco-Roman mythology, and the Orphic Mysteries has some of this as well.

Eros is Christ, Kama-Deva, Krishna, who with his arrow penetrates the heart to inspire us with love. Of course, both Hinduism and the Greek and Roman traditions were completely perverted by the minds of men and women, because we could not comprehend divine sexuality without Raga, attachment, without passion and lust. We perverted these symbols and made them into approvals of our degeneration. We converted these beautiful, pristine, pure symbols into a stamp or seal of approval saying, "its okay for you to be a degenerate." Eros is where we get the term "erotic." If you go to the "erotic" section of any store now, you will not find anything divine or holy, you will only find poison for your soul. Originally, the erotic mysteries were the purest aspect of Divinity, of spirituality, of religion, worldwide: in Hinduism, in Buddhism, in Christianity, in Judaism. The erotic aspect of those teachings was the most pure and most sacred aspect that was only given to those who earned it, by working on themselves, by cleaning themselves of impurity.

We do not want to look at the war we have to wage in ourselves, against ourselves. We do not want to fight against our lust and pride. We want approval for them, and to embrace them. So, we have converted these ancient symbols into approval for degeneration. So, Eros became a symbol for degeneration, and so did Kama-Deva. That is why we have the modern Kama Sutra, and modern eroticism, which are pure 100% black magic and will take you to suffering. -Krishna: The God of Love, Sex, and Yoga
Swami Sivananda knew and practiced alchemy, but kept it secret precisely due to the fanaticism of students.

See also the definition of brahmacharya below, where Swami Sivananda talks about MARRIED brahmacharis.
1 year ago
·
#23062
Accepted Answer
Sexuality is dual. What the yogis of various ancient schools refer to is infrasexuality: the fortification of desire through orgasm or sensual indulgence.

However, lust is not the only possible sexual expression, because it can serve to empower our deepest spirituality:
Krishna and Sex
The next passage of this scripture reads, "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of kama and raga. I am kama which is not contrary to dharma, O lord of the Bharatas [Arjuna]." Kama is another word in Sanskrit that has different subtleties. It depends on its context as to how you translate it. The truth of that is right here: he says, 'I am devoid of Kama' and in the next sentence says, 'I am Kama.' So it appears to contradict. What is Kama? Ever heard of The Kama Sutra? Kama can mean sex life, it can mean lust, and it can mean love. It can also mean chastity. So, it depends on the context. Naturally, with the mind that humanity has now, any time they see the word sex, it is lust. So, the Kama Sutra is used for lustful purposes, the world over. In fact, the only translation that is publicly available is completely adulterated. It is not the actual scripture. It is a version that was adulterated by a Westerner, in order to build up his own fame and wealth. It is completely adulterated, yet it is everywhere. It is one of those best selling books that everybody reads and thinks is a real scripture from India, but it is not. It is packed with lies. It is a text of black magic. The real Kama Sutra has been hidden.

Krishna says, 'I am the strength of the strong, devoid of Kama and Raga.' Here he is saying, "I am devoid of lust." There is no lust in Christ. There is no lust in any Buddha. Yet, humanity looks at the images of the Buddhas and Masters and sees lust, because our minds are full of lust. We see images of Krishna with his spouse, we see images of the Divinities in consort with their partners, sexually, and we see it lustfully, because our mind is like that. But the Gods have no lust. Krishna is devoid of Raga; Raga means attachment, grasping, to clutch, to pull, to hold. What is lust? Attachment to sensation. Kama and Raga work together.

He says, "I am Kama which is not contrary to Dharma." Dharma is also very difficult to translate. The name Dharma is very deep in its implications. Used in this context, it means "religious principles." But, the core of the word Dharma is "truth, reality." When we hear religious principles, we think of a dogma, some list of rules that we have to follow. That is not real religion, that is only the second law. The first law is the reality, the truth. In this level, physically, gravity is a law, it is "a Dharma." We have the Dharma of gravity. We have the Dharma of electricity, the Dharma of magnetism. These are truths, they are energies in motion that we can learn to work with, and if we ignore those Dharmas, we suffer. If you stick your finger in an electrical socket, you will get shocked, because you ignored that Dharma. Christ, Krishna, is Kama which is not contrary to Dharma – sex that is in harmony with truth, with religious principles.

To me, this is the single most important line of the entire Bhagavad Gita. Krishna says,

"I am sex which is not contrary to religion." - Bhagavad Gita 7:11

How is it that millions upon millions of people have read the Bhagavad Gita, and have become celibate? They missed this line, or it was mistranslated, or mis-explained. Krishna says here, "I am sex," so why do they renounce sex? If they want to know Krishna, if they want to know Christ, the power of creation, the power of the Gods, it is in sex. It is in the sexual seed, which is Krishna. The problem is that we do not know what Dharmic sex is. We only know lustful sex, we only know Kama with Raga, with attachment. Because of that, we misunderstand everything. So, people renounce sex, because they are trying to renounce attachment. They are trying to renounce desire. But, they are also throwing away the keys to overcoming desire. The key to conquering desire is the middle path, which is what the Buddha taught. To not renounce sex, neither to indulge in it, but walk in the middle: to engage in sex, but without lust.

Krishna says he is Kama; this image shows Kama-Deva.

https://gnosticteachings-rochen.netdna-ssl.com/images/stories/hindu/kama-deva.jpg

Deva means God. Kama-Deva means "God of Love, God of sex." In this painting we see a beautifully clothed man poised on top of a bird, and in his hands he has a bow and arrow, and the arrow is fiery. What is the fire? Sex, it is Rajas, it is passion, it is the ability to create, it is the first of the three Gunas, the first modality of Prakriti. Kama-Deva sits poised on the bird, in order to fire the fiery arrow into our hearts and minds and sex, to inspire us with the impulse to create, to love. Does this remind you of anyone? Does it look familiar? It should. Ever hear of Cupid? Eros?

https://gnosticteachings-rochen.netdna-ssl.com/images/stories/greek/eros.jpg

If you study Greek mythology, you know that one of the most primordial Gods in Greco-Roman mythology is Eros, who is not that little chubby boy who is mischievous and runs around shooting people with arrows in the cartoons. That is the same thing as the little baby Krishna stealing butter, and the little baby Jesus in the manger. It is a cute symbol, but it is only a cute symbol. Eros is hiding a very profound truth about our inner nature, and about the nature of spirituality. Eros is Krishna. Eros-Cupid is the most profound, important symbol in Greco-Roman mythology. It is right in the middle of the Eleusinian Mysteries, which were the most important mystery school of the Greco-Roman mythology, and the Orphic Mysteries has some of this as well.

Eros is Christ, Kama-Deva, Krishna, who with his arrow penetrates the heart to inspire us with love. Of course, both Hinduism and the Greek and Roman traditions were completely perverted by the minds of men and women, because we could not comprehend divine sexuality without Raga, attachment, without passion and lust. We perverted these symbols and made them into approvals of our degeneration. We converted these beautiful, pristine, pure symbols into a stamp or seal of approval saying, "its okay for you to be a degenerate." Eros is where we get the term "erotic." If you go to the "erotic" section of any store now, you will not find anything divine or holy, you will only find poison for your soul. Originally, the erotic mysteries were the purest aspect of Divinity, of spirituality, of religion, worldwide: in Hinduism, in Buddhism, in Christianity, in Judaism. The erotic aspect of those teachings was the most pure and most sacred aspect that was only given to those who earned it, by working on themselves, by cleaning themselves of impurity.

We do not want to look at the war we have to wage in ourselves, against ourselves. We do not want to fight against our lust and pride. We want approval for them, and to embrace them. So, we have converted these ancient symbols into approval for degeneration. So, Eros became a symbol for degeneration, and so did Kama-Deva. That is why we have the modern Kama Sutra, and modern eroticism, which are pure 100% black magic and will take you to suffering. -Krishna: The God of Love, Sex, and Yoga
Swami Sivananda knew and practiced alchemy, but kept it secret precisely due to the fanaticism of students.

See also the definition of brahmacharya below, where Swami Sivananda talks about MARRIED brahmacharis.
1 year ago
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#23078
Thank you so much Almustafa this reminds me of avoiding both extremes, the Middle Way and living life without attachment. I hope Yogananda gets another chance, maybe this delay in his path happened for a reason, and someone really needs his help in the near future! God bless you instructor and thank you!
May you find bliss in your meditations!
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