Hello community, this question is regarding an Islamic belief, and mainly in the traditional Sunni and the Shia Islamic sect's, there is the belief that permits Muslim men to marry multiple women "a practice known as polygyny or polygamy, and I would base my statement on the translation of Yusuf Ali that state's:
"If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice".
— Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa), Ayah 3
So here we see the permission that is given to the believers of these faith, "Mary women of your choice, two or three or four", etc. And clearly the prophet (Prophet Muhammad) he himself had about 11 (eleven) wives, now in these tradition, the Gnostic Tradition profoundly instituted by Samael Aun Weor, he clearly states that true marriage should be between a man and a women: meaning one man and one women and anything beyond that, one breaks the commands of God, "In the Major Mysteries the Master states this:
"Bachelors and bachelorettes must find a spouse if they want to Christify themselves, because the Gnostic esotericists can only perform sexual contact when they are married. The fires cannot be awakened without sexual magic: yes, without chastity, nothing is achieved in these studies. Kill desire, kill the “I,” and its thoughts: this is how you will become a liberated one. Remember, true marriage has nothing to do with the social or religious formulas of this barbaric humanity. The authentic marriage is performed when a couple unites in spirit, soul, and sex; the true marriage must be pure like a lotus flower."
- Samael Aun Weor, The Major Mysteries
And digging further in the Christian belief: the holy Bible clearly states that marriage should be between one man and one women and anything beyond that is a sin, and to quote Genesis chapter 2:24: that say's, that a man should leave he's father and mother and be married to a women and in such both become one fresh. Now the Master usually adores the prophet Muhammad in many ways in these Gnostic Tradition, and to my question is if he himself the prophet Muhammad was practicing polygyny or polygamy, which is considered a sin in these tradition, by taking to himself many wives, and to quote around 11 in total. And in these tradition primarily founded by Samael Aun Weor, that clearly believe that marriage is between one man and one women: so why does he himself Samael Aun Weor praise and adore Prophet Muhammad, and call him an enlighten one or a master: if he himself was practicing that which is considered sinful in these Gnostic tradition.
"If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice".
— Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa), Ayah 3
So here we see the permission that is given to the believers of these faith, "Mary women of your choice, two or three or four", etc. And clearly the prophet (Prophet Muhammad) he himself had about 11 (eleven) wives, now in these tradition, the Gnostic Tradition profoundly instituted by Samael Aun Weor, he clearly states that true marriage should be between a man and a women: meaning one man and one women and anything beyond that, one breaks the commands of God, "In the Major Mysteries the Master states this:
"Bachelors and bachelorettes must find a spouse if they want to Christify themselves, because the Gnostic esotericists can only perform sexual contact when they are married. The fires cannot be awakened without sexual magic: yes, without chastity, nothing is achieved in these studies. Kill desire, kill the “I,” and its thoughts: this is how you will become a liberated one. Remember, true marriage has nothing to do with the social or religious formulas of this barbaric humanity. The authentic marriage is performed when a couple unites in spirit, soul, and sex; the true marriage must be pure like a lotus flower."
- Samael Aun Weor, The Major Mysteries
And digging further in the Christian belief: the holy Bible clearly states that marriage should be between one man and one women and anything beyond that is a sin, and to quote Genesis chapter 2:24: that say's, that a man should leave he's father and mother and be married to a women and in such both become one fresh. Now the Master usually adores the prophet Muhammad in many ways in these Gnostic Tradition, and to my question is if he himself the prophet Muhammad was practicing polygyny or polygamy, which is considered a sin in these tradition, by taking to himself many wives, and to quote around 11 in total. And in these tradition primarily founded by Samael Aun Weor, that clearly believe that marriage is between one man and one women: so why does he himself Samael Aun Weor praise and adore Prophet Muhammad, and call him an enlighten one or a master: if he himself was practicing that which is considered sinful in these Gnostic tradition.
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So, Almustafa with the link you provided: you are honestly stating that the prophet(prophet Muhammad) was not legally married to all of he's wives and was only legally married to like two out of the 13 wife's he was with. And that he had no sexual relation's with eleven wife's he was with and that he had sexual relation's to only Khadijah and A'isha. The fist one which is Khadijah to whom he was married to for about twenty five years and soon later got ill and died, and then later on he went on and got another one, and that is A'isha to whom I will quote to have been "he's favorite wife", so to clarify the prophet had thirteen wife's and eleven of those he was not legally married to and had no sexual relation's with and that only had been taken in because of war and loss of property, and that the other two which are Khadijah and A'isha he was legally married to and he also had sexual relation's with and that he married A'isha only and only because Khadijah untimely death due to ill- related problems...Yes.
There are two forms of spiritual war: outward and inward. Prophet Muhammad was allowed to defend himself physically against the black magicians of Arabia who sought to kill him, just as Master Morya fought the black lodge during Atlantis.
Inward war is against the ego.
Prophet Muhammad, being a master of the direct path, was under the jurisdiction of the first law: Christ, which transcends the second law: Deuteronomy.
The life of every master of the direct path is one of controversy, since initiates who follow the law of Deuteronomy have not incarnated the Revolutionary Christ yet; therefore, they do not understand the Bodhisattvas of compassion.
See the example of Moses before the Servant of God: Khidr (the resurrected Master Melchizedek) in the Qur'an (Surah 18: 65-82).
Study the course below to understand:
For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami
The most ineffable part of Mohammedan mysticism is Persian Sufism. It has the merit of struggling against materialism and fanaticism and against the literal interpretation of the Koran. The Sufis interpret the Koran from the esoteric point of view as we, the Gnostics, interpret the New Testament. —Samael Aun Weor, The Perfect MatrimonyAdultery is infrasexuality.
Suprasexuality is the result of sexual transmutation. Christ, Buddha, Dante, Zoroaster, Mohammed, Hermes, Quetzalcoatl, and many other great masters were suprasexual. —Samael Aun Weor, The Perfect Matrimony
However, polygamy in the Bible and the Qur’an is symbolic, since its characters are archetypes for the development of the soul.
The post referenced below was a question similar to yours. However, we have added an explanation of the Qur’anic verse you cited to provide additional clarification.
For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami
So, Almustafa with the link you provided: you are honestly stating that the prophet(prophet Muhammad) was not legally married to all of he's wives and was only legally married to like two out of the 13 wife's he was with. And that he had no sexual relation's with eleven wife's he was with and that he had sexual relation's to only Khadijah and A'isha. The fist one which is Khadijah to whom he was married to for about twenty five years and soon later got ill and died, and then later on he went on and got another one, and that is A'isha to whom I will quote to have been "he's favorite wife", so to clarify the prophet had thirteen wife's and eleven of those he was not legally married to and had no sexual relation's with and that only had been taken in because of war and loss of property, and that the other two which are Khadijah and A'isha he was legally married to and he also had sexual relation's with and that he married A'isha only and only because Khadijah untimely death due to ill- related problems: this question Almustafa is to better my understanding on primarily my question and also the link that you provided. And an add on, this also has to do with the link you provided: the warfare that the prophet fought in he's life, you mentioned that
"Lastly, spiritual warfare in the Qur'an is a reference to killing the egos in our psyche, not people who don't follow our gnostic studies or what people 'think' constitutes Islam. But many times in the path we must defend ourselves in the astral plane against the infidels, the unbelievers or black magicians of the left-hand path. But that is a topic for another discussion..."
So my question is, is this is to be taken literally as if the warfare did happen or should we take them as if the war's didn't happen and that they were symbolic, something similar to the kurukshektra warfare in the Mahabharata'm. And if they did happen and he fought these war's isn't then he's teaching's and messages that he left in the Muslim world and the Qura'n contradicting the 6th commandment of God that state's, "you shall not murder" Exodus 20:13.
"Lastly, spiritual warfare in the Qur'an is a reference to killing the egos in our psyche, not people who don't follow our gnostic studies or what people 'think' constitutes Islam. But many times in the path we must defend ourselves in the astral plane against the infidels, the unbelievers or black magicians of the left-hand path. But that is a topic for another discussion..."
So my question is, is this is to be taken literally as if the warfare did happen or should we take them as if the war's didn't happen and that they were symbolic, something similar to the kurukshektra warfare in the Mahabharata'm. And if they did happen and he fought these war's isn't then he's teaching's and messages that he left in the Muslim world and the Qura'n contradicting the 6th commandment of God that state's, "you shall not murder" Exodus 20:13.
Accepted Answer
So, Almustafa with the link you provided: you are honestly stating that the prophet(prophet Muhammad) was not legally married to all of he's wives and was only legally married to like two out of the 13 wife's he was with. And that he had no sexual relation's with eleven wife's he was with and that he had sexual relation's to only Khadijah and A'isha. The fist one which is Khadijah to whom he was married to for about twenty five years and soon later got ill and died, and then later on he went on and got another one, and that is A'isha to whom I will quote to have been "he's favorite wife", so to clarify the prophet had thirteen wife's and eleven of those he was not legally married to and had no sexual relation's with and that only had been taken in because of war and loss of property, and that the other two which are Khadijah and A'isha he was legally married to and he also had sexual relation's with and that he married A'isha only and only because Khadijah untimely death due to ill- related problems...Yes.
There are two forms of spiritual war: outward and inward. Prophet Muhammad was allowed to defend himself physically against the black magicians of Arabia who sought to kill him, just as Master Morya fought the black lodge during Atlantis.
Inward war is against the ego.
Prophet Muhammad, being a master of the direct path, was under the jurisdiction of the first law: Christ, which transcends the second law: Deuteronomy.
The life of every master of the direct path is one of controversy, since initiates who follow the law of Deuteronomy have not incarnated the Revolutionary Christ yet; therefore, they do not understand the Bodhisattvas of compassion.
See the example of Moses before the Servant of God: Khidr (the resurrected Master Melchizedek) in the Qur'an (Surah 18: 65-82).
Study the course below to understand:
For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami
Why would parables of multiple wives be written in books knowing that people will take it literally. I understand why we write in parables to keep information hidden to those who can't understand it, but those who can't understand it then take it literal, muslims will have multiple wives including child wives just as Muhammad did and christians will stone those who collect fire wood on Sundays.
Today we know we should leave a day of the week dedicated to god/ meditation/ prayer/ rest, but fundamentalist take things way too literal and innocent people collecting fire wood have been murdered by those who lack understanding.
No joke, I'm being 100% serious, at my girlfriends church there's a guy who chopped off his arm because he cheated on his wife.
Why do we write symbolically/ parables if some of these messages will end up causing more harm then good.
Today we know we should leave a day of the week dedicated to god/ meditation/ prayer/ rest, but fundamentalist take things way too literal and innocent people collecting fire wood have been murdered by those who lack understanding.
No joke, I'm being 100% serious, at my girlfriends church there's a guy who chopped off his arm because he cheated on his wife.
Why do we write symbolically/ parables if some of these messages will end up causing more harm then good.
All teachings in the Piscean Era, including Christianity, were veiled to humanity.
Only with the Aquarian wisdom did the gnostic knowledge become explicit.
To give the esoteric knowledge during the Era of Pisces would not have been appropriate, and actually would have caused more harm than good, due to the degeneration of humanity.
Not all Hadith are from the White Lodge. The one about Prophet Muhammad's semen is obviously black...
Prophet Muhammad had to defend himself against the black lodge in Arabia, both internally and physically. Self-defense is not a crime.
Even Master M. (Morya), the author of The Dayspring of Youth and The Lord God of Truth Within, had to wage war in Atlantis. Masters of the direct path, who are beyond the understanding of the multitudes, are always controversial and revolutionary, and therefore despised by humanity.
See the story of Khidr and Moses in Surah 18 of the Qur'an.
Only with the Aquarian wisdom did the gnostic knowledge become explicit.
To give the esoteric knowledge during the Era of Pisces would not have been appropriate, and actually would have caused more harm than good, due to the degeneration of humanity.
Not all Hadith are from the White Lodge. The one about Prophet Muhammad's semen is obviously black...
Prophet Muhammad had to defend himself against the black lodge in Arabia, both internally and physically. Self-defense is not a crime.
Even Master M. (Morya), the author of The Dayspring of Youth and The Lord God of Truth Within, had to wage war in Atlantis. Masters of the direct path, who are beyond the understanding of the multitudes, are always controversial and revolutionary, and therefore despised by humanity.
See the story of Khidr and Moses in Surah 18 of the Qur'an.
For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami
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