Monday, 10 December 2018
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I have a question regarding the card meanings in The Eternal Tarot. Many of the cards have contradictory definitions within the same card.

For example, card 13: "guarantees disappointments etc", then "pure enjoyments and gladness for the soul"...

card 45 Regeneration: "spiritual resurrection, physical rejuvenation...decrepitude, breakage and abandonment".

This is not uncommon among the forecasting elements definitions. I was wondering if some of the definitions are for inverted cards and why this is not made clear if that is the case.
3 years ago
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#17642
Accepted Answer
The meanings are clarified in context and by intuition. You already know how to do this with your terrestrial language; there are words that can mean very different, even opposing things, depending on how and when they are used. And, in certain cases, there may be multiple meanings, "double meanings," that appear contradictory but are both true. It is the same with the symbols of the cards. For instance, with arcanum 13 it can "guarantee disappointment in the material world", while at the same time providing "pure enjoyment and gladness for the soul."

This is why it is not enough to simple draw the cards and look up the meaning in a book. Meditation is essential. It is through meditation on the result that the consciousness can draw out the precise meaning.

Incidentally, there is no need to interpret "inverted cards" differently. The meaning is in the symbols of the card, not how it is drawn.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

3 years ago
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#17642
Accepted Answer
The meanings are clarified in context and by intuition. You already know how to do this with your terrestrial language; there are words that can mean very different, even opposing things, depending on how and when they are used. And, in certain cases, there may be multiple meanings, "double meanings," that appear contradictory but are both true. It is the same with the symbols of the cards. For instance, with arcanum 13 it can "guarantee disappointment in the material world", while at the same time providing "pure enjoyment and gladness for the soul."

This is why it is not enough to simple draw the cards and look up the meaning in a book. Meditation is essential. It is through meditation on the result that the consciousness can draw out the precise meaning.

Incidentally, there is no need to interpret "inverted cards" differently. The meaning is in the symbols of the card, not how it is drawn.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

3 years ago
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#17645
Are you sure about that? It doesn't seem very plausible. The book gives out totally contradictory forecasting elements with no clarification or guidance whatsoever.

Card 45 Regeneration: "spiritual resurrection, physical rejuvenation"...then in the same paragraph..."decrepitude, breakage and abandonment". Pretty much opposites.

Anyone that drew that card would be confused, and no guarantee that "meditation" would help them understand it, whatever you mean by "meditation".
3 years ago
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#17647
Can any instructor explain how card 45 makes sense? There are many others like this too if you read through the forecasting elements for each card.

Card 8 as a random example among numerous: Guarantees retributions, punishments and rewards, gratitudes and ungratefulness, compensations for given services.
3 years ago
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#17649
The Tarot will never make sense to the intellect, which always trips over "opposites." You cannot understand the Tarot with reasoning, comparing, or intellectual interpretations.

The veil symbolizes that the secrets of Mother Nature are hidden to the profane, and only the initiate achieves the unveiling after incessant purification and meditation. You must be courageous in order to lift the veil of Isis. Our Gnostic motto is Thelema (willpower)...

The intellect is based on reasoning, and reasoning is Luciferic and demonic. There are some people who believe they can know God through reasoning. We say that only God knows himself.

It is better to practice internal meditation than to lose time reasoning. Through meditation, we can talk with God, the Innermost, the Being, the Most High, thus we can learn from the internal master; thus we can study the divine wisdom at the feet of the master.

The process of reasoning destroys the delicate membranes of the mental body. Thought must flow silently, serenely and integrally, without the struggle of antithesis, without the process of reasoning which divides the mind between opposite concepts.

We have to finish with reasoning and awaken the intuition. Only thus can we learn the true wisdom of God, only thus will the mind be in the hands of the Innermost. - Tarot and Kabbalah


The Tarot is a tool for meditation.

Real Gnosis can only be known by becoming skillful with meditation.

If you do not know how to meditate, put the Tarot away. Learn meditation first.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

3 years ago
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#17652
If you know how to meditate, why would you use Tarot?
3 years ago
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#17653
Card 7: justice and reparations, honour and dishonour, satisfaction and disappointments... honestly looks like this has been designed to deliberately confuse people. How can the Triumph card mean dishonour and disappointments? I have sat in meditation for hundreds of hours over many years, and these definitions are still very obviously contradictory. The only surprising thing is that I didn't notice it properly before. If you're trying to mess with people, and help people, you're doing a great job. And a bad job. Kudos.
3 years ago
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#17654
If you know how to meditate, why would you use Tarot?

The messages that descend [in meditation] from the world of the pure Spirit become symbolic in the astral plane [which are seen clairvoyantly or when out of the body]. Those symbols are interpreted based on [the symbols in the Tarot]: the law of philosophical analogies, on the law of analogous contraries, on the law of correspondences and on the law of numerology. - Tarot and Kabbalah

The Tarot is like a cryptographers key: it provides a mirror of understanding what one sees internally. For this, it is not necessary to divinate with the cards, but only to know them very well. As far as divination goes, it can be used on occasion when one needs further clarification.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

3 years ago
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#17655
Card 7: justice and reparations, honour and dishonour, satisfaction and disappointments... honestly looks like this has been designed to deliberately confuse people. How can the Triumph card mean dishonour and disappointments? I have sat in meditation for hundreds of hours over many years, and these definitions are still very obviously contradictory. The only surprising thing is that I didn't notice it properly before. If you're trying to mess with people, and help people, you're doing a great job. And a bad job. Kudos.


It wonderful that you meditate so much. You must know then:

Meditation is a technique to receive information. - Samael Aun Weor


Therefore, you can easily confirm what is suggested to you in this forum by simply meditating on it.

Since you are concerned about what appears to be contradictory in the Tarot, I invite you to consider this from "Tarot and Kabbalah":

Our disciples must change the process of reasoning for the beauty of comprehension.

The process of reasoning divorces the mind from the Innermost. A mind which is divorced from the Innermost falls into the abyss of black magic.

Many times the Innermost gives an order and the mind reveals itself with its reasoning. The Innermost speaks by hunches, or thoughts, but the mind reveals by reasoning and comparison.

Reasoning is based on opinions, in the struggle of antithetic [opposite] concepts [contradictions], in the process of conceptual election [too many choices], etc.

Reasoning divides the mind between the struggles of the antitheses [opposites]. Antithetic concepts convert the mind into a battlefield.


A mind which is divided by the battle of reasoning, by the struggle of antithetic concepts, fractions the understanding and converts the mind into a worthless instrument for the Being, for the Innermost.

When the mind cannot serve as an instrument for the Innermost, then it serves as an instrument for the animal “I,” and converts the human being into a blind and torpid being, slave of passions and of the sensorial perceptions of the exterior world.

The most torpid and passionate beings that exist upon the earth are precisely the great intellectual reasoners.

The intellectual loses the sense of a sentence only for the lack of a period or comma.

The intuitive one knows how to read where the master did not write, and to listen when the master is not speaking.

The reasoner is a complete slave to the external senses, and his soul is as disabled as the boat that the wind misleads upon the waters.

The spiritual reasoners are the unhappiest beings that exist upon this earth. They have the mind completely crammed with theories and more theories, and they suffer horribly when they cannot perform anything of which they have read.

Those poor beings have terrible pride and commonly they end up separated from the Innermost, converting themselves into Tantric personalities of the abyss.

If we take the Mental body of any pseudo-spiritualist theorizing student, and if we examine it in detail, we will find that it is a true walking library.

If then we examine in detail the coccygeal church of Ephesus or chakra Muladhara, we will find that the Kundalini is completely enclosed there, without giving a sign of even the most slight awakening. If we examine the Shushumna canal of the student we will not find vestiges of the sacred fire there. We will find that the thirty-three chambers of the given student are completely full of darkness.

This internal examination will take us to the conclusion that the given student is lamentably wasting his time.

The student could have a mental body converted into a true library, but all of the thirty-three chambers of the spinal column would be completely extinguished and in profound darkness.

Conclusion: this student is an inhabitant of darkness, an inhabitant of the abyss.

The intellectuals are full of pride, arrogance, and sexual passion. The intellect is based on reasoning, and reasoning is Luciferic and demonic. There are some people who believe they can know God through reasoning. We say that only God knows himself.

It is better to practice internal meditation than to lose time reasoning. Through meditation, we can talk with God, the Innermost, the Being, the Most High, thus we can learn from the internal master; thus we can study the divine wisdom at the feet of the master.

The process of reasoning destroys the delicate membranes of the mental body. Thought must flow silently, serenely and integrally, without the struggle of antithesis, without the process of reasoning which divides the mind between opposite concepts.

We have to finish with reasoning and awaken the intuition [through meditation]. Only thus can we learn the true wisdom of God, only thus will the mind be in the hands of the Innermost.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

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