It was mentioned in another thread by an instructor that the Christic Egyptian pranayama should only be performed during the periods of sunrise and sunset, well ive been doing alternate nostril breathing with the mantra ton-sa-ham ton-ra-ham during the day, night etc, does this mean that those efforts of transmutation were not successful? Can I continue to practice this outside the sunrise-sunset periods mindfully to guarantee successful transmutation of my sexual force or should consider adopting another type of exercise for those periods?
Along the lines of transmutation, Tsongkhapa mentions the vase-breathing method (from the 6 Yogas of Naropa) with the contraction of the diaphragm and pelvic muscles combined with some visualizations centered around the navel chakra (which in Sanskrit I believe is called Manipura) then shooting up into the crown (or Sanskrit Sahasrara). Is this an acceptable form of transmutation?
Thanks.
Along the lines of transmutation, Tsongkhapa mentions the vase-breathing method (from the 6 Yogas of Naropa) with the contraction of the diaphragm and pelvic muscles combined with some visualizations centered around the navel chakra (which in Sanskrit I believe is called Manipura) then shooting up into the crown (or Sanskrit Sahasrara). Is this an acceptable form of transmutation?
Thanks.
Accepted Answer
In The Yellow Book, Samael Aun Weor wrote,
In my understanding, this is not a restriction, stating the pranayama can only be practiced at that time; as with meditation, practice at those times is beneficial, but that does not mean we can only practice at that time. I read this as a suggestion, not a command. Some people may see it differently, and that is okay, too.
Tibetan Buddhism has been maintained for centuries because of a rigid code of initiation and secrecy. Now, that has been broken, and while it is spreading all over the world, it is also filled with problems and it is hard to know who to trust. There are many people teaching from ignorance, and many more practicing in ignorance. So, even though I have some knowledge of the Tibetan scripture and philosophy, I only practice what Samael Aun Weor taught us. In my point of view, there is too much at stake to take any kind of risk or to waste time experimenting.
I think you have to look at your goal. If it is to awaken effectively, the practices we teach are very good, and complete. Truly, we have a complete system, and there is no need for any other techniques.
"...This constitutes one complete Pranayama. Repeat this complete process six more times (twice a day at dusk and dawn)."
In my understanding, this is not a restriction, stating the pranayama can only be practiced at that time; as with meditation, practice at those times is beneficial, but that does not mean we can only practice at that time. I read this as a suggestion, not a command. Some people may see it differently, and that is okay, too.
Tibetan Buddhism has been maintained for centuries because of a rigid code of initiation and secrecy. Now, that has been broken, and while it is spreading all over the world, it is also filled with problems and it is hard to know who to trust. There are many people teaching from ignorance, and many more practicing in ignorance. So, even though I have some knowledge of the Tibetan scripture and philosophy, I only practice what Samael Aun Weor taught us. In my point of view, there is too much at stake to take any kind of risk or to waste time experimenting.
I think you have to look at your goal. If it is to awaken effectively, the practices we teach are very good, and complete. Truly, we have a complete system, and there is no need for any other techniques.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
I have never heard of restricting pranayama to a certain time of day; as far as I know, it is not mentioned in the books of Samael Aun Weor, either.
You can do pranayamas any time of day or night. What makes pranayama effective is your attentiveness and relaxation, not the hour or minute of the day.
The vase-breathing method and other techniques described in Tibetan Buddhist scriptures cannot be practiced unless the student also receives the oral instructions and initiations that accompany the text. Therefore, I would advise doing the practices taught by Samael Aun Weor, which are far simpler, and provide the results that we need.
You can do pranayamas any time of day or night. What makes pranayama effective is your attentiveness and relaxation, not the hour or minute of the day.
The vase-breathing method and other techniques described in Tibetan Buddhist scriptures cannot be practiced unless the student also receives the oral instructions and initiations that accompany the text. Therefore, I would advise doing the practices taught by Samael Aun Weor, which are far simpler, and provide the results that we need.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"You can do pranayamas any time of day or night. What makes pranayama effective is your attentiveness and relaxation, not the hour or minute of the day."
Okay, so your statement there makes perfect sense, my thoughts were in line with that reasoning, although I was honestly and genuinely puzzled by the statement made by the previous instructor in the linked thread pertaining to the practice of Christic Egyptian pranayama, so I felt the need to clarify. Thank you for clearing that up.
Now about the vase-breathing, my interest in Tummo has been quite high, partly because Milarepa spoke so highly of it, and for the most part because ive been searching for a more advanced method to transmute my sexual energy, maybe I should re-analyze if these reasons are worthy enough, or if there are other unseen motives (good or bad) behind such a search, that might take a while, so until then I have a few more questions; Why are there books available written by Buddhists on the subject of Tummo that briefly and in some cases detail the practices such as vase-breathing plus the accompanying visualizations , if they werent intended to be followed/practiced?
I very much respect the Buddhist tradition and their rules, so I do not want to do anything that trespasses them, yet there is conflicting data about whether or not practices such as Tummo are still under secrecy, I'm not a Buddhist initiate so my perspective is you could say outside the tradition, you seem to know more about these traditions more than I do, as quite honestly regarding Tummo I've only heard/read bits and pieces from here and there yet a little bit deeper than the new-age spiritual mainstream stuff that's available from so many places, so what is the real deal about Tummo, why is there so much controversy surrounding the secrecy of the practice? Some Buddhists are showing the practice saying that its no longer in secrecy, while others are staying silent about the matter or saying quite the opposite.
How about Tsa-Lung practices?
In case you are under some kind of vow or do not wish to speak of this, I respect that enough to drop the subject entirely.
Thanks again.
Okay, so your statement there makes perfect sense, my thoughts were in line with that reasoning, although I was honestly and genuinely puzzled by the statement made by the previous instructor in the linked thread pertaining to the practice of Christic Egyptian pranayama, so I felt the need to clarify. Thank you for clearing that up.
Now about the vase-breathing, my interest in Tummo has been quite high, partly because Milarepa spoke so highly of it, and for the most part because ive been searching for a more advanced method to transmute my sexual energy, maybe I should re-analyze if these reasons are worthy enough, or if there are other unseen motives (good or bad) behind such a search, that might take a while, so until then I have a few more questions; Why are there books available written by Buddhists on the subject of Tummo that briefly and in some cases detail the practices such as vase-breathing plus the accompanying visualizations , if they werent intended to be followed/practiced?
I very much respect the Buddhist tradition and their rules, so I do not want to do anything that trespasses them, yet there is conflicting data about whether or not practices such as Tummo are still under secrecy, I'm not a Buddhist initiate so my perspective is you could say outside the tradition, you seem to know more about these traditions more than I do, as quite honestly regarding Tummo I've only heard/read bits and pieces from here and there yet a little bit deeper than the new-age spiritual mainstream stuff that's available from so many places, so what is the real deal about Tummo, why is there so much controversy surrounding the secrecy of the practice? Some Buddhists are showing the practice saying that its no longer in secrecy, while others are staying silent about the matter or saying quite the opposite.
How about Tsa-Lung practices?
In case you are under some kind of vow or do not wish to speak of this, I respect that enough to drop the subject entirely.
Thanks again.
Accepted Answer
In The Yellow Book, Samael Aun Weor wrote,
In my understanding, this is not a restriction, stating the pranayama can only be practiced at that time; as with meditation, practice at those times is beneficial, but that does not mean we can only practice at that time. I read this as a suggestion, not a command. Some people may see it differently, and that is okay, too.
Tibetan Buddhism has been maintained for centuries because of a rigid code of initiation and secrecy. Now, that has been broken, and while it is spreading all over the world, it is also filled with problems and it is hard to know who to trust. There are many people teaching from ignorance, and many more practicing in ignorance. So, even though I have some knowledge of the Tibetan scripture and philosophy, I only practice what Samael Aun Weor taught us. In my point of view, there is too much at stake to take any kind of risk or to waste time experimenting.
I think you have to look at your goal. If it is to awaken effectively, the practices we teach are very good, and complete. Truly, we have a complete system, and there is no need for any other techniques.
"...This constitutes one complete Pranayama. Repeat this complete process six more times (twice a day at dusk and dawn)."
In my understanding, this is not a restriction, stating the pranayama can only be practiced at that time; as with meditation, practice at those times is beneficial, but that does not mean we can only practice at that time. I read this as a suggestion, not a command. Some people may see it differently, and that is okay, too.
Tibetan Buddhism has been maintained for centuries because of a rigid code of initiation and secrecy. Now, that has been broken, and while it is spreading all over the world, it is also filled with problems and it is hard to know who to trust. There are many people teaching from ignorance, and many more practicing in ignorance. So, even though I have some knowledge of the Tibetan scripture and philosophy, I only practice what Samael Aun Weor taught us. In my point of view, there is too much at stake to take any kind of risk or to waste time experimenting.
I think you have to look at your goal. If it is to awaken effectively, the practices we teach are very good, and complete. Truly, we have a complete system, and there is no need for any other techniques.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"In my point of view, there is too much at stake to take any kind of risk or to waste time experimenting."
That is a very good point. I should probably just work with what I have, at least I know for a fact that the Christic Egyptian pranayama works, maybe its my level of concentration and relaxation that needs to be adjusted and not the technique.
I appreciate your honest words and advice, thank you again for your help.
That is a very good point. I should probably just work with what I have, at least I know for a fact that the Christic Egyptian pranayama works, maybe its my level of concentration and relaxation that needs to be adjusted and not the technique.
I appreciate your honest words and advice, thank you again for your help.
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