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Does the Mo-Chao technique of meditation work towards destroying the ego? When we feel our sentiments and subjective apprehensions evaporating through comprehension in non-exclusive meditation, does this technique weaken and destroy the ego, and if so, if we are focused in our pineal gland on our Divine Mother will she destroy the remnants? Or should we differentiate between retrospective exercises to comprehend the ego and the non-exclusive meditation technique to arrive at the stillness of the mind?
10 years ago
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#4357
Accepted Answer
Is it possible to comprehend and annihilate subjective processes in the psyche without having a concrete example in everyday life?

Any subjective process of the psyche is an incorporeal reflection of a corporeal past life experience within the inferior dimensions of nature and the cosmos; thus, if we do not have the slightest remembrance of what such a concrete example might be, it is because our consciousness is asleep!

Can we notice a tendency of the psyche in meditation and concentrate upon it, and as it reveals itself to us through different memories, intuitions, and connections we hadn't seen before, have it weakened and destroyed? It is the opposite in some way, rather than seeing a defect in life and then concentrating on it, concentrating on the defect and seeing where it appeared in every day life?

The tendencies of the psyche in meditation obey incorporeal images or memories of our egos; these are reflections of corporeal experiences of our sleepy consciousness, which were concrete examples of our everyday life.

Intuition is a direct or immediate apprehension or perception of truths, facts, etc., related to those corporeal life experiences within the inferior dimensions of nature and the cosmos, truths, facts, etc which are hidden within our egos.

So, any connection of our psyche with incorporeal images during meditation is the outcome of corporeal life experiences within the inferior dimensions of nature and the cosmos. By concentrating on ONE of them, we eventually remember the event and see where those tendencies appeared in our daily external corporeal [physical, astral mental] multidimensional life.



Let us not forget that the exterior is merely the reflection of the interior; this has already been stated by Immanuel Kant, the philosopher of Konigsberg. If we carefully study the Critique of Pure Reasoning, we certainly discover that the “exterior is the interior” (textual words of one of the great thinkers of all times).

The exterior image of a human being and the circumstances that surround him are the outcome of his self-image; these words “self” and “image” are profoundly significant.

Precisely in these moments, the photograph of James comes into my memory. Somebody took a photograph of our friend James and something interesting happened; in the photograph there appears to be two James: one that is very still, in a position of attention, with the face looking forward; the other appeared to be walking in front of him with the face in a different position. How is it possible that two James appear in one photograph?

I think that it is worthwhile to enlarge that photograph, because it might help us in order to show it to all the people who become interested in these studies. Obviously, I think that the second James would be the self-reflection of the first James; for it is written that the exterior image of a person and the circumstances that surround him are the outcome of his self-image.

It is also written that the exterior is merely the reflection of the interior. So, if we do not respect ourselves, if the interior image of ourselves is very mediocre, if we are full of psychological defects, of moral scum, unquestionably, unpleasant events will surge forth in the exterior world, such as economic and social difficulties, etc. Let us not forget that the exterior image of a person and the circumstances that surround him are the outcome of his self-image.

We all have a self-image. Outside of us exists the physical image that can be photographed; however, inside of us we have another image that cannot. To clarify this better, we will state that outside we have the physical and perceptible image and inside we have that image of a psychological and hyper-sensible type.

If on the outside we have a wretched and miserable image and if this image is accompanied by unpleasant circumstances, like a difficult economic situation, problems of all types, conflicts, whether at home, at work, or on the street, etc., this happens simply because our psychological image is wretched, defective and horrifying. Thus, we reflect our misery, our nothingness, that which we think we are, onto our environment.

If we want to change, we need to make a total and great change. Image, values, and identity must change radically.

In several of my books I have stated that each of us is a mathematical point in space that agrees to serve as a vehicle to a specific sum of values. Some serve as vehicles of wise values and others serve as vehicles of mediocre values. That is why each person is a different person. The majority of human beings serve as vehicles for the values of the ego, the “I.” These values can be positive or negative. Therefore, image, values, and identity are a single whole.

I stated that we must undergo a total transformation. Therefore, emphatically I affirm that identity, values, and image must be totally changed.

We need a new identity, new values and a new image. This is a psychological revolution, an inner revolution. It is absurd to continue within this vicious circle in which we presently move. We need to change integrally.

The self-image of a person originates his exterior image. For the term self-image, I allude to the psychological image that we have within. What could our psychological image be? Could it be that of the irate, of the covetous, of the lustful, of the envious, of the proud, of the lazy, of the glutton, or what? Wherever the image that we have of ourselves may be, or better said, whichever our self-image would be, this interior image will originate, as is usual, the exterior image.

The exterior image of someone, even if it is well dressed, could be that of someone needy. Is the image of the arrogant one, of the one who has become obnoxious, that does not have a grain of humility, perhaps a beautiful image? How does a lustful person behave; how does he live; what aspect does his bedroom present; what is his behavior in his or her intimate life with the opposite sex; perhaps he or she is already degenerated? What could be the external image of an envious person, of someone who suffers because of his fellowman’s well-being and who in secrecy harms others out of envy? What is the image of a lazy person who does not want to work and is dirty and abominable? And what is the image of a glutton...?

Therefore, the exterior image is indeed the outcome of the interior image. This is irrefutable.

If a person learns to respect himself, his life will then change, not only within the field of ethics or that of psychology, but also within the social, economic and even political fields. But this person has to change. That is why I insist that identity, values, and image must be changed.

The present identity, values, and image that we have of ourselves are miserable. This is the cause of why our present social life is full of conflicts and economic problems. In this day and age, nobody is happy; nobody is joyful. Therefore, can the image, values, and identity that we have be changed? Can we acquire a new identity, new values, and a new image? I definitely affirm that it is possible.

Unquestionably, we need to disintegrate the ego. We all have an “I.” When we knock at a door we are asked, who is it? We answer: “It’s me.” But, who is that me? Who is that myself?

Verily, the ego is indeed a sum of negative and positive values. We must disintegrate the ego, put an end to those positive and negative values. Then we can serve as a vehicle for new values, the values of the Being. Consequently, if we want to eliminate all the values that we presently have in order to provoke a change, we need a new didactic. - Revolution of the Dialectic by Samael Aun Weor



“What do modern psychologists understand as “objective?” They understand it to be that which is external to the mind: the physical, the tangible, the material.

“Yet, they are totally mistaken, because when analyzing the term “subjective,” we see that it signifies “sub, under,” that which is below the range of our perceptions. What is below our perceptions? Is it not perhaps the Infernal Worlds? Is it not perhaps subjective that which is in the physical or beneath the physical? So, what is truly subjective is what is below the limits of our perceptions.

“Psychologists do not know how to use the former terms correctly.

“Objective: the light, the resplendence; it is that which contains the Truth, clarity, lucidity.

“Subjective: the darkness, the tenebrous. The subjective elements of perception are the outcome of seeing, hearing, touching, smelling and tasting. All of these are perceptions of what we see in the third dimension. For example, in one cube we see only length, width and height. We do not see the fourth dimension because we are bottled up within the ego. The subjective elements of perception are constituted by the ego with all of its “I’s.” - Samael Aun Weor, Tarot and Kabbalah
“The modern, revolutionary psychology of the new Age of Aquarius utilizes the terms “objective ” and “subjective” in the following way:
A) Objective - Real, spiritual, true, divine, etc.
B) Subjective - Vague, incoherent, not precise, illusory, fantastical, absurd.” - Samael Aun Weor, The Three Mountains

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

10 years ago
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#4344
Friends, friends, I invite you to comprehend what the work of the dissolution of the ego is. Undoubtedly, when submerging by means of Meditation into our own atomic infernos with the purpose of comprehending these or those psychological defects, it is unquestionable that we place ourselves in contact with this or that natural infradimension [of Hell]. - Yes, there is Hell, Devil and Karma by Samael Aun Weor


In the Himalayas, many anchorites used to lived in caves and even developed Siddhis, (powers). Through rigorous esoteric disciplines those hermits attained Samadhi and enjoyed it; they entered into the Alaya of the Universe and even
lost themselves for moments into the Supreme Parabrahatma-Atman.

What really happened is that after they trained themselves in [Mo Chao] the different disciplines of the mind could free the Essence, the Consciousness, and while in the absence of the Ego they could experiment that something that does not belong to time, that is beyond time, the body, the affects and the mind.

Inebriated with the Soma of Samadhi, they believed themselves to be Mahatmas, yet, they never worked on their Ego, they never disintegrated their different psychic aggregates, they only specialized in Meditation Yoga [Mo Chao].

When they physically died and because they had become athletes in the Science of Dhyana or [Mo Chao] Meditation, their Essence could momentary penetrate within the Planets of Christ, to soar in the ambiance of those planets, unfortunately they were not able to remain permanently within those worlds.

Once their ecstasy passed, their Essence returned into their Ego, into the "myself;" later they returned, they came back into a new womb, and now many are in the western world as vulgar and ordinary people, yet in the east and within Tibet they are still venerated as Saints. - The taste of life and the taste of work by Samael Aun Weor


Does the Mo-Chao technique of meditation work towards destroying the ego?

Master Chao-chou was asked by a monk, "does a dog have Buddha-nature? ", to which the master replied, "Wu", meaning no, nothing.

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

10 years ago
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#4354
That reply has cleared up a lot of issues, thank you very much. I have one more specific concern however. Is it possible to comprehend and annihilate subjective processes in the psyche without having a concrete example in everyday life? Can we notice a tendency of the psyche in meditation and concentrate upon it, and as it reveals itself to us through different memories, intuitions, and connections we hadn't seen before, have it weakened and destroyed? It is the opposite in some way, rather than seeing a defect in life and then concentrating on it, concentrating on the defect and seeing where it appeared in every day life.
10 years ago
·
#4357
Accepted Answer
Is it possible to comprehend and annihilate subjective processes in the psyche without having a concrete example in everyday life?

Any subjective process of the psyche is an incorporeal reflection of a corporeal past life experience within the inferior dimensions of nature and the cosmos; thus, if we do not have the slightest remembrance of what such a concrete example might be, it is because our consciousness is asleep!

Can we notice a tendency of the psyche in meditation and concentrate upon it, and as it reveals itself to us through different memories, intuitions, and connections we hadn't seen before, have it weakened and destroyed? It is the opposite in some way, rather than seeing a defect in life and then concentrating on it, concentrating on the defect and seeing where it appeared in every day life?

The tendencies of the psyche in meditation obey incorporeal images or memories of our egos; these are reflections of corporeal experiences of our sleepy consciousness, which were concrete examples of our everyday life.

Intuition is a direct or immediate apprehension or perception of truths, facts, etc., related to those corporeal life experiences within the inferior dimensions of nature and the cosmos, truths, facts, etc which are hidden within our egos.

So, any connection of our psyche with incorporeal images during meditation is the outcome of corporeal life experiences within the inferior dimensions of nature and the cosmos. By concentrating on ONE of them, we eventually remember the event and see where those tendencies appeared in our daily external corporeal [physical, astral mental] multidimensional life.



Let us not forget that the exterior is merely the reflection of the interior; this has already been stated by Immanuel Kant, the philosopher of Konigsberg. If we carefully study the Critique of Pure Reasoning, we certainly discover that the “exterior is the interior” (textual words of one of the great thinkers of all times).

The exterior image of a human being and the circumstances that surround him are the outcome of his self-image; these words “self” and “image” are profoundly significant.

Precisely in these moments, the photograph of James comes into my memory. Somebody took a photograph of our friend James and something interesting happened; in the photograph there appears to be two James: one that is very still, in a position of attention, with the face looking forward; the other appeared to be walking in front of him with the face in a different position. How is it possible that two James appear in one photograph?

I think that it is worthwhile to enlarge that photograph, because it might help us in order to show it to all the people who become interested in these studies. Obviously, I think that the second James would be the self-reflection of the first James; for it is written that the exterior image of a person and the circumstances that surround him are the outcome of his self-image.

It is also written that the exterior is merely the reflection of the interior. So, if we do not respect ourselves, if the interior image of ourselves is very mediocre, if we are full of psychological defects, of moral scum, unquestionably, unpleasant events will surge forth in the exterior world, such as economic and social difficulties, etc. Let us not forget that the exterior image of a person and the circumstances that surround him are the outcome of his self-image.

We all have a self-image. Outside of us exists the physical image that can be photographed; however, inside of us we have another image that cannot. To clarify this better, we will state that outside we have the physical and perceptible image and inside we have that image of a psychological and hyper-sensible type.

If on the outside we have a wretched and miserable image and if this image is accompanied by unpleasant circumstances, like a difficult economic situation, problems of all types, conflicts, whether at home, at work, or on the street, etc., this happens simply because our psychological image is wretched, defective and horrifying. Thus, we reflect our misery, our nothingness, that which we think we are, onto our environment.

If we want to change, we need to make a total and great change. Image, values, and identity must change radically.

In several of my books I have stated that each of us is a mathematical point in space that agrees to serve as a vehicle to a specific sum of values. Some serve as vehicles of wise values and others serve as vehicles of mediocre values. That is why each person is a different person. The majority of human beings serve as vehicles for the values of the ego, the “I.” These values can be positive or negative. Therefore, image, values, and identity are a single whole.

I stated that we must undergo a total transformation. Therefore, emphatically I affirm that identity, values, and image must be totally changed.

We need a new identity, new values and a new image. This is a psychological revolution, an inner revolution. It is absurd to continue within this vicious circle in which we presently move. We need to change integrally.

The self-image of a person originates his exterior image. For the term self-image, I allude to the psychological image that we have within. What could our psychological image be? Could it be that of the irate, of the covetous, of the lustful, of the envious, of the proud, of the lazy, of the glutton, or what? Wherever the image that we have of ourselves may be, or better said, whichever our self-image would be, this interior image will originate, as is usual, the exterior image.

The exterior image of someone, even if it is well dressed, could be that of someone needy. Is the image of the arrogant one, of the one who has become obnoxious, that does not have a grain of humility, perhaps a beautiful image? How does a lustful person behave; how does he live; what aspect does his bedroom present; what is his behavior in his or her intimate life with the opposite sex; perhaps he or she is already degenerated? What could be the external image of an envious person, of someone who suffers because of his fellowman’s well-being and who in secrecy harms others out of envy? What is the image of a lazy person who does not want to work and is dirty and abominable? And what is the image of a glutton...?

Therefore, the exterior image is indeed the outcome of the interior image. This is irrefutable.

If a person learns to respect himself, his life will then change, not only within the field of ethics or that of psychology, but also within the social, economic and even political fields. But this person has to change. That is why I insist that identity, values, and image must be changed.

The present identity, values, and image that we have of ourselves are miserable. This is the cause of why our present social life is full of conflicts and economic problems. In this day and age, nobody is happy; nobody is joyful. Therefore, can the image, values, and identity that we have be changed? Can we acquire a new identity, new values, and a new image? I definitely affirm that it is possible.

Unquestionably, we need to disintegrate the ego. We all have an “I.” When we knock at a door we are asked, who is it? We answer: “It’s me.” But, who is that me? Who is that myself?

Verily, the ego is indeed a sum of negative and positive values. We must disintegrate the ego, put an end to those positive and negative values. Then we can serve as a vehicle for new values, the values of the Being. Consequently, if we want to eliminate all the values that we presently have in order to provoke a change, we need a new didactic. - Revolution of the Dialectic by Samael Aun Weor



“What do modern psychologists understand as “objective?” They understand it to be that which is external to the mind: the physical, the tangible, the material.

“Yet, they are totally mistaken, because when analyzing the term “subjective,” we see that it signifies “sub, under,” that which is below the range of our perceptions. What is below our perceptions? Is it not perhaps the Infernal Worlds? Is it not perhaps subjective that which is in the physical or beneath the physical? So, what is truly subjective is what is below the limits of our perceptions.

“Psychologists do not know how to use the former terms correctly.

“Objective: the light, the resplendence; it is that which contains the Truth, clarity, lucidity.

“Subjective: the darkness, the tenebrous. The subjective elements of perception are the outcome of seeing, hearing, touching, smelling and tasting. All of these are perceptions of what we see in the third dimension. For example, in one cube we see only length, width and height. We do not see the fourth dimension because we are bottled up within the ego. The subjective elements of perception are constituted by the ego with all of its “I’s.” - Samael Aun Weor, Tarot and Kabbalah
“The modern, revolutionary psychology of the new Age of Aquarius utilizes the terms “objective ” and “subjective” in the following way:
A) Objective - Real, spiritual, true, divine, etc.
B) Subjective - Vague, incoherent, not precise, illusory, fantastical, absurd.” - Samael Aun Weor, The Three Mountains

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

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