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  Wednesday, 28 August 2013
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Why is reason so harshly condemned by the Gnostic's on this site as being Pilate and being something we are trapped inside? I don't get it. Isn't reason a good thing? Doesn't reason point to God(Quinque Via, Kalam Argument), doesn't reason even point to Jesus? I mean it's easy to compare mohammed, julius caesar, nietzsche, wagner, buddha, moses, socrates, seneca, ect and see something unique in jesus (especially if you pay attention to the way in which they die)? So why is Reason a bad thing? Reason is completely compatible with conscious experience and faith, so I don't see what's bad about it. If it makes you skeptical of false prophets or someth
10 years ago
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#4332
Accepted Answer
There is the reasoning of demons, and there is the reasoning of angels. Examine your mind. What do you find there? Question yourself!

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

10 years ago
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#4304
Intelligence has been proven to be separated from reason or at-least not the cause of reason. The word Logos can even be translated as reason, but I've been told that Pilate is trapped in reason on this website, but that doesn't make sense. How can you be trapped in Reason when there is the law of non contradiction? It's more reasonable to believe in a God than not if you comprehend St. Thomas Aquinas' five ways or the Kalam argument, so it seems to be good in this regard. Reason can check reasons, and I've yet to be able to check my intuition with my intuition? Reason and Faith are completely compatible shown both in personal experience and even a beginner's introduction to the thought in John Paul the II's Fides et Ratio.

Why the fierce dislike of Philosophy's root in Samael's form of Gnosticism?

Samael has the one article, which doesn't need to be named, criticizing skepticism, but some skepticism is a good thing. Obviously we shouldn't believe everything we are told, which is exactly what we'd have to do if we were never skeptical.... Should we believe false prophets as much as real prophets? Why does Gnosticism exile logic completely from it's repertoire? You don't have to empty your mind to have an experience with Christ. Hell, you don't even need to try and enter into contemplative prayer... Which is normally more dangerous than not, since if God wants to reveal something to you he will, why try to raise yourself up to things you aren't ready for and will bloat your arrogance, when it's more profitable to see your own lowliness and if God sees you are humble, he'll reveal himself to you? Eastern Meditation is also hardly like the Church Fathers East or West, which your website claims. There is an extreme difference between the two. One being highly personal and communitarian, the other being empty or a void.
10 years ago
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#4317
Pilate [with his subjective reasoning] then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man [with objective reasoning]?
They [the intellectuals] answered and said unto him, If he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee.
Then said Pilate unto them [with his subjective reasoning], Take ye him, and judge him according to your [subjective] law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us [intellectuals] to put any man to death:
That the [objective reasoning] saying of Jesus might be fulfilled, which he spoke, signifying what death he should die.
Then Pilate entered [by means of subjective reasoning] into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews?
Jesus answered him [with his objective reasoning], Sayest thou this thing of thyself [with your subjective reasoning], or did others [with their subjective reasoning] tell it thee of me?
Pilate [with his subjective reasoning] answered, Am I a [fanatic] Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee [your spiritual doctrine] unto me [the animal intellect]: what hast thou done?
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this [tridimensional] world: if my kingdom were of this [tridimensional] world, then would my servants [intellectually] fight, that I should not be delivered to the [fanatic] Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Pilate therefore said unto him [with his subjective reasoning], Art thou a king [Malachim] then? Jesus [with his objective reasoning] answered, Thou sayest that I am a [Malachim] king. To this end was I born [in Tiphereth], and for this cause came I into the world [of Malkuth], that I should bear witness unto the truth [Kether]. Every one that is of the truth [Kether] hears my voice [the Logos].
Pilate [with his subjective reasoning] saith unto him, What is truth? [Jesus kept silence] And when Pilate had said this, he went out again unto the [fanatic intellectual] Jews, and saith unto them, I [with my subjective reasoning] find in him no fault at all.
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover: will ye therefore that I release unto you the King [the Malachim] of the Jews [in Tiphereth]?
Then cried they all again [with their subjective reasoning], saying, Not this [son of] man, but Barabbas [the son of perdition, the intellectual ego]. Now [alchemically speaking] Barabbas was a [bad] thief [Gestas].

Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and [with his mind] scourged him .
And the soldiers [the intellectuals with their subjective reasoning] platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe, and said [intellectually], Hail, King [Malachim] of the Jews! and they smote him [his doctrine] with their hands [right and left arguments].
Pilate [with his subjective reasoning] therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him.
Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the [son of] man!
When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I [with my subjective reasoning] find no fault in him.
The Jews answered him, We have a [written] law, and by our [written] law he ought to die, because [through sexual alchemy] he made himself the Son of God.
When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he was the more afraid;
And went again [with his subjective reasoning] into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer [because the subjective reasoning cannot understand objective reasoning].
Then saith Pilate unto him [with his subjective reasoning], Speakest thou not unto me [the animal intellect]? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
Jesus answered, Thou [Netzach] couldest have no power at all against me [Tiphereth], except it were given thee from above [from Chokmah]: therefore he [the fanatics in Malkuth] that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him [with his subjective reasoning]: but [in Malkuth] the [fanatic] Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this [son of] man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever makes himself a king speaks against Caesar [the power in Malkuth].
When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.
And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King [your Malachim]!
But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priest answered, We have no king but Caesar [the power in Malkuth].
Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.
And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:
Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.
And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.
This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.
Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
Pilate answered, What I [with my subjective reasoning] have written I have written.- John 18, 19


When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing [with his reasoning], but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his [right and wrong] hands before the multitude, saying [justifying himself with his subjective reasoning], I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. - Matthew

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

10 years ago
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#4321
I'm failing to grasp this. Reason is a bad guide? Consciousness is turned into a type of higher feeling of self-righteous knowing? This seems so dangerous to never question yourself...
10 years ago
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#4332
Accepted Answer
There is the reasoning of demons, and there is the reasoning of angels. Examine your mind. What do you find there? Question yourself!

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

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