In a number of Master Samael's books and lectures this subject has been covered. For people who are not doing this Spiritual Work and have not created the Superior Existential Solar Bodies and have not destroyed the egos, after death what carries on is the multiple devil I's which has the essence bottled up inside it. It is mentioned that the person that was alive on Earth, that we knew and loved has ceased to exist. This is very tragic.
But one thing is not very clear to me.
After the person has come to the end of his/her 108 human existences, the essence which is bottled up inside the multiple psychic aggregates(egos), must enter the abyss and pass through the Nine Dantean Circles until the trapped essence is liberated, before it can re-emerge and start its new journey upwards, through the mineral, plant, animal kingdoms and then finally entering into the human kingdom once more.
Now if this essence, was to carry out the Spiritual Work and was to build the Superior Existential Solar Bodies of the Being and destroy the egos, it would gain true individuality and immortality. At this point, would it not remember all its past existences including the lives prior to entering into the abyss? If this is true, then the person does not truly die forever, but only dies forever if it never reaches Mastery and Immortality in the future rounds?
Also, what if the said essence never reaches Mastery in the future returns after emerging from the abyss and ultimately returns into the Universal Spirit of Life as an innocent elemental. We know that the elementals have great intelligence which is why they can assist the Initiates with works of High Magic and Healing. Wouldn't such an elemental have memories of its existences while it was alive in the human kingdom?
Inverencial Peace,
SeekerOfLight
But one thing is not very clear to me.
After the person has come to the end of his/her 108 human existences, the essence which is bottled up inside the multiple psychic aggregates(egos), must enter the abyss and pass through the Nine Dantean Circles until the trapped essence is liberated, before it can re-emerge and start its new journey upwards, through the mineral, plant, animal kingdoms and then finally entering into the human kingdom once more.
Now if this essence, was to carry out the Spiritual Work and was to build the Superior Existential Solar Bodies of the Being and destroy the egos, it would gain true individuality and immortality. At this point, would it not remember all its past existences including the lives prior to entering into the abyss? If this is true, then the person does not truly die forever, but only dies forever if it never reaches Mastery and Immortality in the future rounds?
Also, what if the said essence never reaches Mastery in the future returns after emerging from the abyss and ultimately returns into the Universal Spirit of Life as an innocent elemental. We know that the elementals have great intelligence which is why they can assist the Initiates with works of High Magic and Healing. Wouldn't such an elemental have memories of its existences while it was alive in the human kingdom?
Inverencial Peace,
SeekerOfLight
Accepted Answer
The "person" needs to be understood in seven parts: physical, vital, emotional, mental, conscious, buddhic, and atmic. Amongst the first four are the entanglements of the ego, karma, etc.
The Master who completes the path has completely destroyed the ego, and developed the consciousness. Yet, all the experiences remain, as "work memory" (objective memories of the past).
When an Elemental exits the Abyss and returns back as a mineral, it contains with it a type of experience (in the Essence) that makes it more experienced than others. But this does not not mean it can access those ancient pasts at that time - it may take the three brained machine in meditation in order to recognize those historical pasts as his/her own.
The Master who completes the path has completely destroyed the ego, and developed the consciousness. Yet, all the experiences remain, as "work memory" (objective memories of the past).
"The establishment of a consecutive order of the different parts of the Work, related to this extremely serious subject of eliminating the psychic aggregates, allows us to generate a Work-Memory. This is quite interesting, and even extremely useful in the question of inner development. This Work-Memory can certainly give us distinct psychological “photographs” of the different stages of our past. As a whole, it will bring to our imagination a vivid and even repugnant imprint of what we were before beginning the radical psycho-transforming Work. There is no doubt that we would never wish to return to that horrifying image, that vivid representation of what we once were. From this point, such psychological “photography” is useful as a means of confrontation between a transformed present and a regressive, stale, clumsy and unfortunate past. The Work-Memory is always recorded on the basis of successive psychological events registered by the center of Psychological Self-observation." - Samael Aun Weor, The Great Rebellion
When an Elemental exits the Abyss and returns back as a mineral, it contains with it a type of experience (in the Essence) that makes it more experienced than others. But this does not not mean it can access those ancient pasts at that time - it may take the three brained machine in meditation in order to recognize those historical pasts as his/her own.
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Accepted Answer
The "person" needs to be understood in seven parts: physical, vital, emotional, mental, conscious, buddhic, and atmic. Amongst the first four are the entanglements of the ego, karma, etc.
The Master who completes the path has completely destroyed the ego, and developed the consciousness. Yet, all the experiences remain, as "work memory" (objective memories of the past).
When an Elemental exits the Abyss and returns back as a mineral, it contains with it a type of experience (in the Essence) that makes it more experienced than others. But this does not not mean it can access those ancient pasts at that time - it may take the three brained machine in meditation in order to recognize those historical pasts as his/her own.
The Master who completes the path has completely destroyed the ego, and developed the consciousness. Yet, all the experiences remain, as "work memory" (objective memories of the past).
"The establishment of a consecutive order of the different parts of the Work, related to this extremely serious subject of eliminating the psychic aggregates, allows us to generate a Work-Memory. This is quite interesting, and even extremely useful in the question of inner development. This Work-Memory can certainly give us distinct psychological “photographs” of the different stages of our past. As a whole, it will bring to our imagination a vivid and even repugnant imprint of what we were before beginning the radical psycho-transforming Work. There is no doubt that we would never wish to return to that horrifying image, that vivid representation of what we once were. From this point, such psychological “photography” is useful as a means of confrontation between a transformed present and a regressive, stale, clumsy and unfortunate past. The Work-Memory is always recorded on the basis of successive psychological events registered by the center of Psychological Self-observation." - Samael Aun Weor, The Great Rebellion
When an Elemental exits the Abyss and returns back as a mineral, it contains with it a type of experience (in the Essence) that makes it more experienced than others. But this does not not mean it can access those ancient pasts at that time - it may take the three brained machine in meditation in order to recognize those historical pasts as his/her own.
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