Saturday, 20 October 2012
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I am a beginner to Gnosis, but have astral projected many times using techniques from the books of Robert Monroe.
I have started reading the books on Astrology and the Introduction to Gnosis.
Last night i was meditating using the counting to six technique described by the author in the earlier chapters, once I was relaxed I then repeated the prayer for my true Being to show me my defects (since i am trying to work on destroying the ego. And I had the intent of leaving my body.
My question has to do with the intense fear I felt once I was out of my body. I was able to successfully stay conscious as my body fell asleep, and was able to see myself lift up from my body. But as soon as I did, i was bombarded by voices. At first they were incoherent, then they started, what seemed to me, ridiculing me. As if I was some novice who didn't know what I was doing. I tried ignoring them, but they got louder and louder. The voices seemed to be coming from my sister who was sleeping in the same room, but in the bed next to mine. Now, I know that it was probably a projection of my mind that they were coming from her, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
After a while of putting up with the voices and me trying to float out of the room to escape them (which didn't work, cause for some reason, what ever 'body' i was using wasn't able to penetrate the walls/ceiling), I remembered that I should ask to be taken to the Gnostic Church. So I did. And what happened was that I started doing circles around my sleeping physical body, but I didn't seem to go anywhere. So i was still left in my room, and I think it all eventually developed into a subjective dream, because i then confronted my sister for not staying quiet, and she just started talking to me as if she was someone else, telling me how she is a person from Australia who was born with both male and female genitalia, which is why she was messing with me. I didn't give this any significance, but the fact that I was talking to someone/something else embodied by my sister, and the voices that I kept hearing, I was extremely terrified and all I wanted was to wake up in the physical.
I had to scream and scream and scream to eventually wake up in the physical, and as soon as I did I started praying so that I wouldn't slip back into that state once I fell back to sleep, i begged God to not let me experience that fear again that night.
I don't know what i can do, for every time I have left my body, I am either in complete darkness, or in a very scary place where I encounter very creepy entities. Is there any way to meditate, or pray all of this away? Cause the fear it all causes seems to me like my greatest obstacle.
I have started reading the books on Astrology and the Introduction to Gnosis.
Last night i was meditating using the counting to six technique described by the author in the earlier chapters, once I was relaxed I then repeated the prayer for my true Being to show me my defects (since i am trying to work on destroying the ego. And I had the intent of leaving my body.
My question has to do with the intense fear I felt once I was out of my body. I was able to successfully stay conscious as my body fell asleep, and was able to see myself lift up from my body. But as soon as I did, i was bombarded by voices. At first they were incoherent, then they started, what seemed to me, ridiculing me. As if I was some novice who didn't know what I was doing. I tried ignoring them, but they got louder and louder. The voices seemed to be coming from my sister who was sleeping in the same room, but in the bed next to mine. Now, I know that it was probably a projection of my mind that they were coming from her, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
After a while of putting up with the voices and me trying to float out of the room to escape them (which didn't work, cause for some reason, what ever 'body' i was using wasn't able to penetrate the walls/ceiling), I remembered that I should ask to be taken to the Gnostic Church. So I did. And what happened was that I started doing circles around my sleeping physical body, but I didn't seem to go anywhere. So i was still left in my room, and I think it all eventually developed into a subjective dream, because i then confronted my sister for not staying quiet, and she just started talking to me as if she was someone else, telling me how she is a person from Australia who was born with both male and female genitalia, which is why she was messing with me. I didn't give this any significance, but the fact that I was talking to someone/something else embodied by my sister, and the voices that I kept hearing, I was extremely terrified and all I wanted was to wake up in the physical.
I had to scream and scream and scream to eventually wake up in the physical, and as soon as I did I started praying so that I wouldn't slip back into that state once I fell back to sleep, i begged God to not let me experience that fear again that night.
I don't know what i can do, for every time I have left my body, I am either in complete darkness, or in a very scary place where I encounter very creepy entities. Is there any way to meditate, or pray all of this away? Cause the fear it all causes seems to me like my greatest obstacle.
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Accepted Answer
Your experience is a common one, and is valuable for the lessons it offers. The solution is to meditate on the experience in order to understand it consciously. Through meditation, we seek information: more images, experiences, dreams, visions. Intellectual or speculative analysis usually only confuses us more.
"It is necessary to fight fear, forcing it to disintegration, until it is converted to cosmic dust. For that reason we have given you specific techniques for disintegrating your defects, using the spear and with the help of your Divine Mother. Of this, we have spoken amply in my book, The Mystery of the Golden Blossom." - Dream Yoga
"The awakening of the Consciousness is urgent. Whosoever learns to project the Astral Body at will can study at the feet of the great Masters of Wisdom. In the astral world we find our Guru who will instruct us in the great Mysteries.
We need to abandon fear to have the joy of visiting the lands of paradise. We need to abandon fear to have the joy of entering the Temples of the Land of the Golden Light. There we shall sit at the feet of the great masters of the White Lodge. There we shall gain strength for the difficult Path. It is necessary that we strengthen ourselves on the Path; to take a break and receive direct instruction from the lips of our Guru. He, as a loving Father, always waits for us in the Astral Body to console us."
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
Accepted Answer
Your experience is a common one, and is valuable for the lessons it offers. The solution is to meditate on the experience in order to understand it consciously. Through meditation, we seek information: more images, experiences, dreams, visions. Intellectual or speculative analysis usually only confuses us more.
"It is necessary to fight fear, forcing it to disintegration, until it is converted to cosmic dust. For that reason we have given you specific techniques for disintegrating your defects, using the spear and with the help of your Divine Mother. Of this, we have spoken amply in my book, The Mystery of the Golden Blossom." - Dream Yoga
"The awakening of the Consciousness is urgent. Whosoever learns to project the Astral Body at will can study at the feet of the great Masters of Wisdom. In the astral world we find our Guru who will instruct us in the great Mysteries.
We need to abandon fear to have the joy of visiting the lands of paradise. We need to abandon fear to have the joy of entering the Temples of the Land of the Golden Light. There we shall sit at the feet of the great masters of the White Lodge. There we shall gain strength for the difficult Path. It is necessary that we strengthen ourselves on the Path; to take a break and receive direct instruction from the lips of our Guru. He, as a loving Father, always waits for us in the Astral Body to console us."
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
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