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So what ?

  Friday, 11 August 2017
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A practical question:

The Creator knew WHAT He was creating. He knew that His created human beings are going to fall. He knows that many are going to fail, and only few will be chosen.

He (I am saying He, as nothing happens without His permission) hid these teachings from people when there was a better chance for them to succeed, and only revealed these to them when many are perhaps living their last lifetimes in this Arian race. It looks as though that everything has pretty much happened already. If most monads are eventually destined to go back to the Absolute without having learned much about themselves, then:

--- why was this all prefermnace created which goes on for millions of years and yet will go on for many more millions of years ?

Don't get me wrong, I am willing to do my job, but the question of "So what?" is always there. And honestly, that So what attitude gives some sort of relaxation, and lightens the feelings. The best answer I can get so far is "Just because" :-)
6 years ago
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#14911
Accepted Answer
Divinity is not tyrannical. We were given free will to chose what path to take, because divinity is freedom and love. We suffer because we make bad choices, due to our own fault...

Without freedom, there is no possibility for autonomy and self-knowledge, the very point of existence.

Those individuals in past eras who were serious about change were put into contact with the initiatic schools. Many did not enter the path because they chose not to search and follow their spiritual inquietudes.

Given the multiplicity and recurrence of universes, it's actually uncommon for Monads not to do the work, because they are given many opportunities in diverse cosmic scenarios. 3000 cycles of Samsara is a LONG time.

We just happen to live on an uncommon planet, filled with many failures who don't feel inspiration or longing to change. However, who is to say that such souls won't pursue the path in the future, after having known the terrors of the abyss in multiple cycles?

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

6 years ago
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#14911
Accepted Answer
Divinity is not tyrannical. We were given free will to chose what path to take, because divinity is freedom and love. We suffer because we make bad choices, due to our own fault...

Without freedom, there is no possibility for autonomy and self-knowledge, the very point of existence.

Those individuals in past eras who were serious about change were put into contact with the initiatic schools. Many did not enter the path because they chose not to search and follow their spiritual inquietudes.

Given the multiplicity and recurrence of universes, it's actually uncommon for Monads not to do the work, because they are given many opportunities in diverse cosmic scenarios. 3000 cycles of Samsara is a LONG time.

We just happen to live on an uncommon planet, filled with many failures who don't feel inspiration or longing to change. However, who is to say that such souls won't pursue the path in the future, after having known the terrors of the abyss in multiple cycles?

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

6 years ago
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#14922
3000 cycles is indeed a LONG time... THANK YOU for giving a perspective.. I was a bit saddened about the comparison with seeds ... that some seeds are destined to perish. And only few would sprout... But unlike the seeds we have ability to choose. We make bad choices because we don't know. We should help each other to recognise the divinity in us, but on the other hand, these teachings are heard/given to those who seek. Let's Hope for the best for every Monad... ?
6 years ago
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#14936
Those monads are content with what they have. It is that simple.

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor

6 years ago
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#14938
So those monads have divinity but lack the fire, the strive to learn and achieve more. Why do they lack this quality ? Because the Universe doesn't need so many suns, or in this way it's controlling the expansion of the Universe ?

From my earlier reflection on the subject and from this discussion I understand - the more the monad is 'gifted', the more it is expected from him/it. So our objective should be helping each monad to get his maximum potential... ?
6 years ago
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#14959
The "suffering" of human beings on this planet is an oddity, and not normal. We made that, not God. Our suffering is our fault. On a normal planet, the human organisms die and are reborn without pain, fear, etc. On such worlds, the state of the monad is not so strange; the human part is content to be where it is, as well.

Anyway, the monads of this planet also know that there is no hope for the human souls here, so they can just wait until the next cycle.

Humanity has failed. Most of humanity, almost all of it, still does not have Soul. The great majority of humans are dead leaves, which the hurricane of fatality drags to the Abyss. They are fallen leaves from the Tree of Life.

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor

6 years ago
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#14962
But you are still trying to help those dead leaves... and not only you, many other beautiful forces are still helping us, the messengers of God. maybe because there is still hope? How can we 'save' the insignificant work that we have done so far and 'take with us' wherever our karma will blow us next? And remember all the experiences in the next cycle ? I know there are many lectures about that. Honestly, each word of your lectures is a treasure. I listen the same lecture every day for weeks already (Bhavachakra-4th lecture) and every day I find something new (it becomes new because I apply and see the result). It seems an endless but amazing process.

Anyway, to sum up this discussion, can we say, that it is better to prepare better grounds for the next cycle, rather than just "wait"? Because you can still achieve a lot in whatever time is left for us in this cycle ? The key is to remember...
11 months ago
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#29136
I was re-reading old discussions.

Can you please elaborate more on what you mean by “this planet”? Are we going to go through cycles on another planet ? :) or have we gone cycles on other planets?

Mind blowing…
11 months ago
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#29137
I specified this planet as distinct from others, because our case is very unusual. That is why so many people from other planets have been observing us.

As to whether we undergo cycles on other planets, one has to consider that consciousness has no beginning or end: life is a continuity. We are simply too asleep to be aware of that.

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor

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