Wednesday, 15 July 2015
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Is enlightenment a state of man that is uncorrupted by falsity? (i.e. desire, lust, greed, worries, anxietys, for these are all manifestations of ignorance) When Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Bliss, does this imply that they were in a enlightened state of man, and when they have ate the apple(desire) they are casted out?(Of enlightenment?) When the angels have fallen from heaven(enlightenment). Jesus said to seek the Kingdom of Heaven(Enlightenment) "Seek the house that is made without hands, so you may rest"(To rest is to realize the unimportance of the struggle for the vices of sin, to stop worrying and killing for money, women, power, again this is all from my speculation) Are we all already enlightened individuals, but we are cast out of His bosoms because we have degraded ourselves from our highest potential by clinging on to falsity? To become enlightened is to revert back into a previous state of consciousness where we are cleaned from falsity and illusions? Is to become enlightened meaning to see reality how it really is? I guess to really put this down to a single question; Is enlightenment the most simplest state of being, a man without sin, and to achieve it is very simple, yet the Ego makes this "journey" overly complex with the desire to search for more and more, gathering falsity on the way(there shouldn't be a "journey" to enlightenment, for it is already there for our taking) What are your thoughts on this? I am apologizing in advance if this is inappropriate question for this forum. Again, i'm more interested in what you, the instructors, speculation on this theory is.
7 years ago
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#9984
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Indeed, before the fall from Eden, the consciousness was awake and pure. However, it was innocent, simple, and not yet "like the Elohim, knowing good and evil." So one thing is the primordial consciousness at our level, and another thing is consciousness developed and expanded, like the Elohim have. We are simple elementals, yet fallen into degeneration. If we free ourselves of degeneration, we will still only be simple elementals. To become a human being is another level, a higher work. To be a perfect human being is yet something more. So, there are levels and levels.......

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

7 years ago
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#9984
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Indeed, before the fall from Eden, the consciousness was awake and pure. However, it was innocent, simple, and not yet "like the Elohim, knowing good and evil." So one thing is the primordial consciousness at our level, and another thing is consciousness developed and expanded, like the Elohim have. We are simple elementals, yet fallen into degeneration. If we free ourselves of degeneration, we will still only be simple elementals. To become a human being is another level, a higher work. To be a perfect human being is yet something more. So, there are levels and levels.......

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

7 years ago
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#9997
So there's different levels of enlightenment? I see.. So, what we've talked about is the buddha hood, right? The destruction of Self? The next step to enlightenment would be to be resurrected(and to sacrifice ourselves to humanity) which is Christ-hood? We achieve a different stage of enlightenment when we are resurrected(Kundalini, Opening the churches)? So buddhahood involves killing the ego, and resurrecting involves inheriting the solar body(or kundalini) through maithuna; would sacrificing ourselves to humanity be a different tier of enlightenment, that which is above christhood? Or is christhood subjectively split in between resurrecting and sacrificing for humanity? Thank you for your input :)
7 years ago
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#9998
The word "enlightenment" does not refer to a single, universal state, but instead is a general term with many levels of meaning.

The consciousness has infinite potential for development, meaning that it is not limited to one or two potential states.

The Buddha is your Being (Chesed). Buddhahood is related to the expansion of Chesed, which is a process of internal intiations.

The incarnation of Christ comes later, and is the path towards resurrection.

All of this is explained in:

http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/tarot-and-kabbalah.html

http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/the-three-mountains.html

http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/the-revolution-of-beelzebub.html

http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/the-pistis-sophia-unveiled.html

http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/path-of-the-bodhisattva.html

http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/path-of-initiation.html

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

7 years ago
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#10002
I agree, enlightenment is such a vast word, I would rather input states of consciousness in its place. Thank you for these recommendations of books, i've never heard of Path of Initiation before!
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