By Obi on Monday, 06 April 2015
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thank you

many many loving thank you's for the time put here by instructors and participants through glorian publishing.



question on the popular attitude of ''getting as much as we can before we die..

--> where can we look to gain more understanding about how karma is applied after ones death?

how do we become more cognizant that what we do now in this life to fulfill our fantasies and desires, transfers over negatively after death and potentially into the next body..
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Simply apply logic. If what you do today affects you tomorrow, then it is logical —knowing that the consciousness does not die when the body dies — that what we do in this life will affect the next one. From this point of view, one can meditate.

Have you studied our course on Death? http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/death.html
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I have,.

Excuse me if i missed where in which one of the studies it goes into detail about how and where the debt is stored and then how conciousness then transfers over into the next body with its debts

Its more logical to think how today will effect my tomorrow, In example; I know if I drink alcohol, tomorrow is going to be painful in a number of ways.

but if in this given life,
I get away with a crime to which no one knows or ever finds out about, other than my own conscience knowing,
or perhaps I am unaware of the crimes or debt that I am creating for myself and others
because I am unaware of how my actions produce unwanted results,
how do we see the responsibility of our impacts even after we die?

I don't think we see that we are going to continue to suffer after death
Obi
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The "debt" is "stored" both in ourselves — not only as consequences of actions but also the tendency to repeat them — and in others, not only as the consequences, but the tendency to imitate them, thus returning the action upon others. (We treat someone rudely, and, now irritated, they in turn imitate that action, and treat others rudely, too. Naturally, this spreads the original action dramatically. This is action and consequence in motion).

This is not like we think of "storage" as objects or written lists in a ledger. Rather, it is storage like everything that is "stored" in your DNA. It is what makes what you experience.

The mathematical values of our actions and consequences stay with us until it is all resolved. Death and life and just alternations in the flow of those forces. As explained in the course, from the point of view of those values, the "betweens" (Bardos) of life and death are just like the others, "sleep" and "waking state." They are just modifications of perception. The flow of values continues, modified by any added actions.

Actions still produce consequences even if "no one knows about the actions we commit. Furthermore, it does not matter if you are aware of the consequences or not: they still happen.

All of this is discussed in some detail in this book: http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-other-authors/karma-is-negotiable.html
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