Hello. I have been doing my practices quite frequently lately and i came up with this question and i can think of many answers for it but i want to see what you people would say to help. The practice i'm talking about was in the "Three mountains" book by Master Samael, it is supposed to enter into the fourt dimension using the power of the divine mother, in which we need to lay down and recite this prayer: "I believe in God, I believe in My Mother Nature, I believe in white magic, Divine Mother take me with my body. Amen" untill the state which we are between slumber and awakening, then getting up and jumping to enter the fourth dimension. I've been trying to do this practice and i have faith it is possible to succeed if well done, however i have some problems during practices like that. One of them is i concentrate in praying, i concentrate in repeating the verses without doing it mechanically but i think i have to concentrate in something else, but i dont know what, maybe the divine mother and use imagination? What should i concentrate on?
Another problem i found is that i concentrate, but when i concentrate my body doesnt feel sleepy, even though im relaxed, i know i dont have to actually fall asleep to have success, it would be far from what i wanted to happen. The sleep either never comes or when my body feels sleepy i fall asleep together, how do i fix this? I think i need some training.
My senses become quite the burden too. Specially the touch, if its cold or hot it really troubles me, if im sweating or itching it all becomes a problem for my concentration, i cant actually concentrate. I read we gotta withdrawl from physical senses, and thats true but i dont know how to do that, how?
One thing that i find difficult is when should i get up and do the jump to enter the fourth dimension, and how to do that without breaking the state i was before. When should i get up, should i open my eyes or what i dont understand.
Anyways, those were my questions i hope you people understand. I'm really thankful for whoever answers me because i normally can solve my own questions, so when i ask other people is because im stuck.
Another problem i found is that i concentrate, but when i concentrate my body doesnt feel sleepy, even though im relaxed, i know i dont have to actually fall asleep to have success, it would be far from what i wanted to happen. The sleep either never comes or when my body feels sleepy i fall asleep together, how do i fix this? I think i need some training.
My senses become quite the burden too. Specially the touch, if its cold or hot it really troubles me, if im sweating or itching it all becomes a problem for my concentration, i cant actually concentrate. I read we gotta withdrawl from physical senses, and thats true but i dont know how to do that, how?
One thing that i find difficult is when should i get up and do the jump to enter the fourth dimension, and how to do that without breaking the state i was before. When should i get up, should i open my eyes or what i dont understand.
Anyways, those were my questions i hope you people understand. I'm really thankful for whoever answers me because i normally can solve my own questions, so when i ask other people is because im stuck.
Accepted Answer
Relaxation is the key. Relaxation of the body is important, yet the intellect and heart must also be relaxed. Oftentimes, doing a practice is accompanied by excitement or nervousness: that is not relaxation, that is a kind of activity that prevents relaxation. So, it is necessary to let go of expectations, fears, excitement, etc. One has to practice in a "matter of fact" way. This is similar to when you learn to drive a car: at first you may feel excited, nervous, anxious, but gradually you become so accustomed to driving that those feelings go away. Spiritual practice is like that too.
When relaxed completely, one simply needs to maintain awareness until the relaxation approaches that sleepy state. Concentration through this transition should be completely on the practice one is doing. If using a mantra, focus on the mantra itself. If using a visualization, then focus only on that. That is, concentration needs to be integrated and internal, not split into different things.
You withdraw from the senses when you sleep or take a nap; so, do the same when you meditate. If sensations disturb you, ignore them. Responding to them only sustains them.
The process of leaving the physical body is not difficult. The obstacle is the mind. Do not think about it, or analyze it. Instead, just try. Do it. Repeatedly. Eventually, you will accomplish it, and you will realize that explanations cannot convey the method.
When relaxed completely, one simply needs to maintain awareness until the relaxation approaches that sleepy state. Concentration through this transition should be completely on the practice one is doing. If using a mantra, focus on the mantra itself. If using a visualization, then focus only on that. That is, concentration needs to be integrated and internal, not split into different things.
You withdraw from the senses when you sleep or take a nap; so, do the same when you meditate. If sensations disturb you, ignore them. Responding to them only sustains them.
The process of leaving the physical body is not difficult. The obstacle is the mind. Do not think about it, or analyze it. Instead, just try. Do it. Repeatedly. Eventually, you will accomplish it, and you will realize that explanations cannot convey the method.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
Accepted Answer
Relaxation is the key. Relaxation of the body is important, yet the intellect and heart must also be relaxed. Oftentimes, doing a practice is accompanied by excitement or nervousness: that is not relaxation, that is a kind of activity that prevents relaxation. So, it is necessary to let go of expectations, fears, excitement, etc. One has to practice in a "matter of fact" way. This is similar to when you learn to drive a car: at first you may feel excited, nervous, anxious, but gradually you become so accustomed to driving that those feelings go away. Spiritual practice is like that too.
When relaxed completely, one simply needs to maintain awareness until the relaxation approaches that sleepy state. Concentration through this transition should be completely on the practice one is doing. If using a mantra, focus on the mantra itself. If using a visualization, then focus only on that. That is, concentration needs to be integrated and internal, not split into different things.
You withdraw from the senses when you sleep or take a nap; so, do the same when you meditate. If sensations disturb you, ignore them. Responding to them only sustains them.
The process of leaving the physical body is not difficult. The obstacle is the mind. Do not think about it, or analyze it. Instead, just try. Do it. Repeatedly. Eventually, you will accomplish it, and you will realize that explanations cannot convey the method.
When relaxed completely, one simply needs to maintain awareness until the relaxation approaches that sleepy state. Concentration through this transition should be completely on the practice one is doing. If using a mantra, focus on the mantra itself. If using a visualization, then focus only on that. That is, concentration needs to be integrated and internal, not split into different things.
You withdraw from the senses when you sleep or take a nap; so, do the same when you meditate. If sensations disturb you, ignore them. Responding to them only sustains them.
The process of leaving the physical body is not difficult. The obstacle is the mind. Do not think about it, or analyze it. Instead, just try. Do it. Repeatedly. Eventually, you will accomplish it, and you will realize that explanations cannot convey the method.
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
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