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  Tuesday, 28 October 2014
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A few people commented on the board saying that when they awoke in the astral dimension, they found friends, family and other people they knew to be attacking them as a black magician.

What makes one become a black magician in the astral world? Do normal people who go about their days turn into black magicians in the astral realm that will attack you?

If a friend is aware of the need to not fornicate, yet does so anyway, does this develop the lucifers tail and give them more desire to harm you in the astral realm?
9 years ago
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#7979
Accepted Answer
Firstly, to "awaken in the internal worlds" is not a single state of consciousness. Consciousness awakens gradually, as it is liberated from conditioning. So, the consciousness of a beginner is in a very different state from that of someone who has eliminated many defects. Furthermore, the state of consciousness of a master is far more brilliant and perceptive. To see objectively in the internal worlds requires an enormous amount of awakened consciousness, far more than any beginner has. Yet, even then, the masters learn from symbols. Read this:

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

9 years ago
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#7972
By learning how to sublimate the sexual energy towards our brain, the Ruach Elohim (which the bible named Abraham, Chesed, the Spirit that everybody has within) makes light in us. Chesed means mercy. When Chesed, the Ruach Elohim starts floating above the creative waters, our sexual waters of creation, is when Elohim says, “Let there be light” in our heads and the light shines in our pumpkin. Then, when the light is illuminating our brain, it is when we start seeing monsters, our own evil creations.

When people enter into this doctrine they all of a sudden feel tired of being attacked by devils, monsters, vampires, thus, they state that this doctrine is no good. What they do not realize is that the attacks that often they are receiving and seeing is their the outcome of their own creation. They see their own negativity: the demons that they carry in their minds. Understand, when God begins making light in the darkness, we are the darkness; when God says, “let there be light” it is then when we start seeing what we really are.
9 years ago
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#7975
Thank you for your reply, this is excellent.

Although, I think I had better rephrase my question a little bit. I understand what you say about when we dream, how we see the monstrous abominable aspects of ourselves. This is expected throughout the great work.

I guess what I am asking is in regards to when we cease to dream, and awaken in the astral realm. I'm sorry if this is already what you have answered. Are you saying that, even if the other people are truly the astral representation of the people we know in real life, that they are attacking us because of what is inside of ourselves?

When confronted with these attacks, what is the best way to approach it? Using the methods of spiritual defence, while also understanding that we are fighting an aspect of ourselves?

Surely, if we are able to work on a specific monstrous ego and eventually destroy it within ourselves, we will still see that same egotistical aspect in the astral realm, would we not?

For instance, say we manage to completely eliminate the ego of lust. Say we have a friend who knows that they should not be fornicating, yet still continues to do so despite knowing her fate if she does not stop. By doing so, will this contribute to being a stronger black magician in the astral realm when we encounter them?
9 years ago
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#7976
even if the other people are truly the astral representation of the people we know in real life,


This is actually uncommon. The language of the internal worlds is symbolic. Usually, we do not see the physical person literally, but something or someone that represents them. In most cases, when you see someone internally, it is not "them." Rather, they are a symbol of something. So, it is necessary to analyze what they symbolize.

For example, if you see a friend attacking you, analyze the character of that person: are they fearful, angry, jealous? Most likely, they are representing that ego of yours, which is attacking you.

This is a huge stumbling block for many people, because they persist in interpreting experiences literally, and start feeling resentful towards others, when in fact the guilty ones are entirely in ourselves.

If someone you know does happen to be attacking you internally, it is generally communicated to us through symbols and layers of meaning. Such as, you may be attacked by a lion (a Leo person), or a bear (a very aggressive, animalistic personality), etc.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

9 years ago
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#7978
This is an interesting response, thank you!

Knowing this, how is it that we can communicate with and receive teachings from masters in the internal worlds if it is not a true representation of them?

Thank you.
9 years ago
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#7979
Accepted Answer
Firstly, to "awaken in the internal worlds" is not a single state of consciousness. Consciousness awakens gradually, as it is liberated from conditioning. So, the consciousness of a beginner is in a very different state from that of someone who has eliminated many defects. Furthermore, the state of consciousness of a master is far more brilliant and perceptive. To see objectively in the internal worlds requires an enormous amount of awakened consciousness, far more than any beginner has. Yet, even then, the masters learn from symbols. Read this:

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

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