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  Friday, 16 March 2012
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<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>My question is in regards to where I should focus in my work to obtain realization of self. At this point, I have experienced on a number of occasions, physical manifestations of spiritual energy. As such, the signs I look for when determining my progress are normally physical.</p>
<p>For example, the first manifestation that I recognized as the beginning of enlightenment or awakening, was a sensation that manifested in the region between my genitals and anus. This sensation came about when I was studying the Gospel of Thomas where Jesus spoke to Thomas three words. I wanted to know those words and so I began to research it. I came across the mention by a scholar of the three words, kaulaukau, saulausau, zeesar. Apparently, these three words hold a certain power to many Gnostics. I have yet to discover there significance gnostically speaking, but the point I would like to make here is this. When I was researching on the internet those words, I am certain I was thinking of them over and over in my mind as well as writing (typing) them over and over in my search for there meaning. It was at this time the sensation manifested and was unlike any sensation I had ever experienced. I was very uncomfortable with this sensation at first because of the nature of it and the area in which it was occurring. The only way I can describe this feeling, is that it is similar to what I know as orgasm. But this was not a mechanical and filthy sensation as I have experienced in my life as a sinner. It was like an energy emanating from that area of my body along with a slight feeling of pressure around my tale bone.</p>
<p>At this point in my life I had never really meditated, but since I was being exposed to the concept in my study of Gnostic scripture and teachings. It was in my mind when this manifestation was occurring. I searched the internet for similar experiences and I began to see a common theme among my findings. I began to be exposed to concepts such as my root chakra and Kundalini. To my astonishment the various things I came across on the internet about the manifestation that I was having were directly related to meditation and spiritual concepts that I was becoming exposed to.</p>
<p>Since that time the concepts have been repeatedly confirmed to me in various ways throughout my life since then. I have had even more powerful physical manifestations that I know are the energy of The Holy Spirit awakening within me.</p>
<p>However, here is my dilemma. Now if I am not experiencing physical manifestations, I have a hard time knowing if I am doing something wrong or if I have moved past the point of needing a physical manifestation to confirm for me my progress through self realization. I have a feeling that it would be hard for someone to gauge my experience without the full story, but that is very personal to me. There is much that has happened to lead me to where I am, but I am at a point where I feel stuck. I am listening to the teachings and reading the readings, but my meditation is much harder for me to understand lately without the physical manifestation of The Spirit to confirm I am on the right path.</p>
<p>Have I strayed from the path or is it just another level that I must begin to recognize the signs that are manifested in a way appropriate for this step in the process?</p>
<p>Thank you for any help and may Peace and Love be abundant in you.</p>
10 years ago
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#823
Accepted Answer
Sensations are illusory. They can mean a million different things.

In other words, the sensation itself does not guarantee anything about spiritual progress. But, it is common to experience different types of sensations, pressures in the body, hearing bells or tones, seeing geometric shapes, etc. None of these things are really that important. It may mean that some energy is flowing that did not flow before, but a Black Magician can do that easily as well.

We need to measure ourselves by things like: Am I awake? When? For how long? Physically? Do I possess a continuous consciousness, meaning I am awake when my body is sleeping? Or do I dream? Do I have less lust? Do I have less anger, pride, envy? Etc.
10 years ago
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#823
Accepted Answer
Sensations are illusory. They can mean a million different things.

In other words, the sensation itself does not guarantee anything about spiritual progress. But, it is common to experience different types of sensations, pressures in the body, hearing bells or tones, seeing geometric shapes, etc. None of these things are really that important. It may mean that some energy is flowing that did not flow before, but a Black Magician can do that easily as well.

We need to measure ourselves by things like: Am I awake? When? For how long? Physically? Do I possess a continuous consciousness, meaning I am awake when my body is sleeping? Or do I dream? Do I have less lust? Do I have less anger, pride, envy? Etc.
10 years ago
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#826
Thank you for this answer. It does help. Thankfully, shortly after the most explosive of these physical manifestations, my issues with lust and anger, etc. literally disappeared from my being. There was nearly a week long period in which I was not the person I had thought myself to be. My wife was brought to tears at the transformation she was witnessing in me. Sadly, it has been a slow decline since then. There has been ups and downs and it would seem I am still on the spiral path. In the beginning I meditated using the simple mantra OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, and it resulted in miraculous occurrences in my life. I have since expanded to using the IEOUAMS. Is this part of my problem possibly? I have listened to the teachings on Christ, Mantra, Mind Protection. However, I don't know which mantra to choose for myself and I want to avoid skipping around different ones. As of now I have been using different ones based on what I feel my immediate need is. Is that appropriate?

You have given me a direction to start heading in and I am sorry for my many questions. There was a time in my life when I thought I had the answers, it stunted me. Now all I have are questions.

Thank you.
10 years ago
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#851
All of the mantras work, but of course they are different. But that is not a problem. There is a saying that, often times when we think we are advancing on the path, we actually doing very poorly, and often when we think we are doing poorly, we are actually doing well. It is not always true but sometimes, looking back, we realize it was the truth.

Sometimes when students begin, they get very quick results, and then nothing, and frustration sets in. Usually this is because our Being and the Masters are giving us some help to see what is possible. Then, we are left to do the work. We have a lot of karma, so, we have to work hard to get those results by our own action. So, I don't think you necessarily have any problem. You just need to continue your work and try not to be identified with any type of sensations or experiences. Instead, study them just as you would any normal type of experience.

Yes, use whatever mantra you feel you want to. That is appropriate. It takes time to get to know mantras.
10 years ago
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#854
What you're saying makes sense because in the beginning I was making mistakes that I instantly knew were mistakes the moment I made them. Then later confirmed through study. It would seem at that point that my Being was indeed showing me that it is within me to achieve what Jesus of Nazareth achieved. That's why He taught for us to do as He does and be perfect therefore as our Father in Heaven is perfect.

Now I am aware that it IS possible as I had briefly experienced, thus obtaining gnosis of my potential. Or rather the potential of my true Being. Had those occurrences never happened I may not have made any further progress in this life time. Now I cannot fathom the thought of having to start over again in a new life. I MUST achieve my goal now that I have found the way.

It felt so simple at first. I just naturally lost interest in all things of a carnal nature. Now I am slowly feeling that weight and burden of carnality slowly returning. It's aggravating. Allowing myself to be in this state of mind is precisely my problem I suppose. Oh to be where I was at those moments.

Listen to me, being completely identified with the bliss of being unidentified. What a paradox I am in. I have other questions but I think I'll do one last search before I ask them in a separate post. Thank you very much for your help. I am in a place where I really feel the need for guidance. I really hope I can get to the Oregon retreat in July. Let me restate that. I will be glad to go to the retreat in July if it is the will of the Father that I be there, moreover I will be glad to stay where I am if it be the will of the Father. Amen.
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