Monday, 18 August 2014
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I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the youtube video below, there's also a book about him and I've seen manyparallels to what i've been hearing on the gnostic teachings podcast.

John Chang builds up this Chi from not spilling his seed but he doesn't use sex with another to activate it though he does have a wife and kids, he built it up in a retreat in nature for a few years where his meditation practice needs him to be touching the earth while sitting to build it up, the book goes more into this.

The book claims that "level 4" is when this ying and yang can bes brought together in the center of your solar plex region or dantian and this combining of the two makes you somewhat immortal, more than an animal soul....so yes, thoughts on this especially like to hear what the people giving the lectures on the podcast think.

Thanks!



8 years ago
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#7508
If we are unable to investigate even our own mind and state of being, how can we possibly know anything about the state of being of another person? Certainly, the internet is not a reliable or trustworthy means of investigating much of anything, especially when the fate of your soul is at stake.

Furthermore, even if someone were to display spiritual powers, what does that even mean? Even demons have spiritual powers. So what?

Spiritual powers are very easy to develop, but ultimately mean nothing, because powers do not liberate the consciousness from karma.

We do not covet or value powers, or use them as a measure of progress. For us, progress is measured by ethical and psychological character. That is, we esteem a person for displaying great love for others, wisdom, diligence, chastity, altruism, generosity, etc.

Much of the book The Major Mysteries addresses these themes:

Regrettably, our human “I” wants to appear everywhere, our human “I” wants to be applauded and admired by everyone; the human “I” lets his hair and beard grow and wears strange clothes in order to appear publicly on the streets, so that the naive can call him master, elder brother, etc., thereafter, like a harlot the human “I” gets publicly undressed in order to show off his powers, qualities, and lineage.

Yes, the human “I’s” “love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Master, Master.” - Matthew 23: 6, 7

The human “I” has no humility; he boasts about everything, he swaggers about everything, he shows off everything without any modesty whatsoever. The human “I” is an actor who works in order to be applauded and admired by others.

Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. - Ecclesiastes 1: 2

The human “I” is filled with jealousy; this is why the human “I” loves to be disguised with the cloak of Aristippus. Tradition tells how Aristippus, a great Greek philosopher, wanting to show his wisdom and humility, garbed himself with an old cloak, full of patches and holes. Thus, grasping the staff of philosophy and filled with a great humility, Aristippus walked through the streets of Athens, and in this fashion Aristippus arrived at the home of Socrates.

When Socrates saw him coming, he exclaimed, “Oh, Aristippus, I see thy vanity through the holes in thy cloak.”

The human “I” knows how to conceal anger within recipients made of ice; yes, within cold recipients filled with beauty and ineffable perfume, the human “I” hides the fire of anger. This is how when driven by jealousy he declares that he is prudent and he states that his anger is just confusion and stress, etc. Indeed, crime is hidden within the incense of prayer.

The authentic Master never boasts of being a Master. The true Master is unknown. He dresses like any ordinary citizen and goes around anonymous and unknown.

Therefore, in order for the Being to be born in us, the “I” must completely die. The Being is what is, what has been and what shall always be. The Being is the life that throbs in each atom, the Most Exalted within us. The Being is impersonal; it is the Innermost, the Most Exalted within. The Being is beyond desire, beyond the mind, beyond the will, even beyond consciousness. - http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/the-major-mysteries.html


Finally, if in this questioning you are seeking someone to follow, we recommend you learn how to follow your own inner Being. Do not rely on so-called masters or teachers in the physical world. Only your Being can guide you to liberation.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

8 years ago
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#7512
As Al-Sheikh Al-Akbar (the Greatest of Sufi Teachers) Ibn 'Arabi taught, that even if a person were to fly in the air, but not follow the Qur'an, shun him!
[Al-Murtaish] was told, "So-and-so walks on water." He replied, "It seems to me that a person whom God Most High has made able to oppose his desires is greater than somebody who walks on air!" -Al-Qushayri, Al-Risalah: Principles of Sufism

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

8 years ago
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#7514
On the Gnostic Teachings podcast there's much talk about the joining of man and woman in a pure sexual act to build up this energy/chi but what I read in Magus of Java was this can also be built up by going into nature (mountain tops especially seem better suited or more abundant of this energy) and sitting on the earth and this energy also goes into you lol so I think maybe both ways are possible? It says this is how Chang managed to combine his yin and yang inside of his chest/stomach to get his abilities.

The sexual act might be faster but maybe more difficult because of getting into the mind state of purity?

If we are unable to investigate even our own mind and state of being, how can we possibly know anything about the state of being of another person? Certainly, the internet is not a reliable or trustworthy means of investigating much of anything, especially when the fate of your soul is at stake.

Furthermore, even if someone were to display spiritual powers, what does that even mean? Even demons have spiritual powers. So what?

Spiritual powers are very easy to develop, but ultimately mean nothing, because powers do not liberate the consciousness from karma.

We do not covet or value powers, or use them as a measure of progress. For us, progress is measured by ethical and psychological character. That is, we esteem a person for displaying great love for others, wisdom, diligence, chastity, altruism, generosity, etc.


Yes there seems to be "evil" or people who are talked about in magus that acquire abilities but use it for harming others. There's a part where John's Master's Master (i think i got that right) leaves a man alive but blinded, this now blind man spends the rest of his life seeking revenge, manages to find a school that teaches him, acquires great power and seeks out the man who blinded him (John's Master's Master) and they fight to the death meanwhile devastating an entire forest.

And even in the book it seems like John is ignorant of philosophy or the discussions of watching your mind/ego wander but many parallels to what you discuss on the podcast with Karma, hell, heaven...its just interesting how it all seems to tie together and how i stumbled on your podcast by chance which filled more holes or doubts in my mind. So thank you
8 years ago
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#7717
In the Gospel of Thomas Jesus says

(106) Jesus said
"When you make the two one, you will become the sons of man, and when you say, 'Mountain, move away,' it will move away."

I think this is literal, like Moses parting the Red Sea, John Chang in the first video around 1 minute 20 seconds says the yin and yang come together and then he can do what he does.

Also interesting from an old book in the late 1800's

The character Quong moves a giant boulder at Mount Shasta with ease from Dweller on Two Planets book
"In me is the magnet you do not see. Did it ever occur to you that the processes of all life are carried on by what for our present purpose may be called magnetism? Assimilation of food and drink, waste, excretion, all vital processes whatever? The magnet is in the cerebellum or back brain, and in the medullary substance of the corporae striatum, a veritable wound magnet. The force which causes the heart to act, the lungs to act, maintains bodily heat, and so on, is enormous; it amounts to many hundreds of thousands of foot pounds per day. He that knows occult law can make nature parallel this magnet, for the universe itself moves only because of the current, which flows from positive to negative, from one-half of matter into the other half, continuously. Here, now, is an occult secret: make a place of separation in this, the Fire of Life, and where the poles come in contact there shall force be in action. This block of stone, the door, is an armature in a natural field of force. Here on the ground. is another.”
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