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Is it possible to meet an instructor in the astral plane for help?
8 years ago
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#7493
Accepted Answer
There is the assumption among many students that the instructors of Glorian Publishing are fully-awakened, enlightened beings. This is not the case.

Likewise, many students believe that just because disciples studied under the auspices of Samael Aun Weor, that somehow they were very advanced initiates.

Our statements have nothing to do with an unwillingness on our part to help our students. However, many of us are at a different level of being, and do not possess many of the powers you assume us of having.

Let me warn you in accordance with the words of the German initiate, Friedrich Nietzsche:
“Now I go alone, my disciples, You too, go now, alone. Thus I want it. Go away from me and resist Zarathustra! And even better: be ashamed of him! Perhaps he deceived you. The man of knowledge must not only love his enemies, he must be able to hate his friends. One repays a teacher badly if one always remains nothing but a student. And why do you not want to pluck at my wreath? You revere me; but what if your reverence tumbles one day? Beware lest a statue slay you. You say that you believe in Zarathustra? But what matters Zarathustra? You are my believers—but what matter all believers? You have not yet sought yourselves; and you found me. Thus do all believers; therefore all faith amounts to so little. Now I bid you lose me and find yourselves; and only when you have all denied me will I return to you.” -Thus Spoke Zarathustra
It is true: you can receive help from instructors, but the best help is always a Master of Major Mysteries who has fully annihilated the ego. The chapter I referenced from The Zodiacal Course by our Sheikh and teacher, Samael Aun Weor, explains this very well. Study and meditate upon the contents of that link!

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

8 years ago
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#7484
Instructors are imperfect. A Master of Major Mysteries is another thing!

Study the reference below:

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

But Samael Aun Weor and his students gathered in the astral plane for study. Does that mean these gnostic students were perfect. We study from instructors on physical plane so what bad is it to study together in the astral plane? What about "love each other"? If your 'brother'(?) has problem in the astral plane, you d just let them suffer? Because you ' re imperfect? Who s gonna help then? Why won't you fight and even die for your brother as jesus said?
8 years ago
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#7493
Accepted Answer
There is the assumption among many students that the instructors of Glorian Publishing are fully-awakened, enlightened beings. This is not the case.

Likewise, many students believe that just because disciples studied under the auspices of Samael Aun Weor, that somehow they were very advanced initiates.

Our statements have nothing to do with an unwillingness on our part to help our students. However, many of us are at a different level of being, and do not possess many of the powers you assume us of having.

Let me warn you in accordance with the words of the German initiate, Friedrich Nietzsche:
“Now I go alone, my disciples, You too, go now, alone. Thus I want it. Go away from me and resist Zarathustra! And even better: be ashamed of him! Perhaps he deceived you. The man of knowledge must not only love his enemies, he must be able to hate his friends. One repays a teacher badly if one always remains nothing but a student. And why do you not want to pluck at my wreath? You revere me; but what if your reverence tumbles one day? Beware lest a statue slay you. You say that you believe in Zarathustra? But what matters Zarathustra? You are my believers—but what matter all believers? You have not yet sought yourselves; and you found me. Thus do all believers; therefore all faith amounts to so little. Now I bid you lose me and find yourselves; and only when you have all denied me will I return to you.” -Thus Spoke Zarathustra
It is true: you can receive help from instructors, but the best help is always a Master of Major Mysteries who has fully annihilated the ego. The chapter I referenced from The Zodiacal Course by our Sheikh and teacher, Samael Aun Weor, explains this very well. Study and meditate upon the contents of that link!

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

Instructors are not enlightened perfect beings, you said, so what? I m not looking for a saint as others who have troubles in the astral realm, just want someone who is lessunfamiliar and astranged to psychic attack to help them(they might have had the same problem and got over it and just apply it to save other peer's life).
Not unwilling?? When we want to do something for someone, nothing can stop us. It s only when you're too busy with yourself well being that we find many excuses not to do it.
I got your message that is to get away from you, INDIVIDUALISM!
8 years ago
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#7510

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

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