Hi everyone,
Can one ease one's way into the arcanum AZF? I realize once you walk the path of AZF you can't turn back else you will turn into a pillar of salt like Lot's wife and it would be like trying to ride a bike forwards and backwards at the same time. However when one gets a wife before they embark on the Great work of sexual magick there are many beautiful intimate things a man would want to do with his priestess which may include spilling the cup of hermes. I've already spilled the cup of hermes thousands of times in my life before I heard of this Arcanum AZF so whats just a few more times to enjoy beautiful union with my wife for a short period of time – maybe a week or so, or at very most a month that way I don't have to go the rest of my entire life with a nagging mind thinking “gee how I would love to do this beautiful intimate act with my wife and how I would like to try such and such with her”. Then after I got my desires finished with her then we will abstain from sex for about a month or so to accumalte fire and the christic seed and then start the path of the razors edge – the path of no return. After all, it is gnosis and one must find this truth for themselves not through dogma. Also I know you folks preach about getting rid of desire but is that really truthful? If that is so why would one burn incense in their house and listen to relaxing classical music and have beautiful flowers in their house and get massages, and why does Samael Aun Weor talk about being in “ecstasy” listening to the Angel singing in the Jinn state temple. I think the Arcanum AZF, the path of the razors edge is a good workable system which I will follow eventually so I can escape from samsara. But lets be realistic, if there was no desire we would marry an unattractive wife and there would be no beauty or art in this world, no desire for health or well being. Without desire you might as well stay in a dark closet all day until you die of starvation. I read Samael Aun Weor and I separate the wheat from the chaff. I don't believe everything he says like we should only listen to classical music -there is a lot of other beautiful music besides that. I have a mind of my own and don't blindly follow this man who gained his teachings from Krum-Heller. I don't blindly follow any one. The true gnostic must arrive at this knowledge through gnosis. Still I do like to weigh your opinions in my mind and reflect on them because I have the humility to realize I may not be right in everything. Also I don't know if I trust the bible for answers since it is a book that states you should not suffer a witch to live so I can't rely on a book of corruption for answers. So yeah if I ever get a wife I think I will fornicate with her in mutual joy for about a week or a month at most – and then enter the path of the razors edge. And Samael Aun Weor ain't right in everything - after all this fellow did say that at the end of the 20th century science would be able to read the akashic records.
Can one ease one's way into the arcanum AZF? I realize once you walk the path of AZF you can't turn back else you will turn into a pillar of salt like Lot's wife and it would be like trying to ride a bike forwards and backwards at the same time. However when one gets a wife before they embark on the Great work of sexual magick there are many beautiful intimate things a man would want to do with his priestess which may include spilling the cup of hermes. I've already spilled the cup of hermes thousands of times in my life before I heard of this Arcanum AZF so whats just a few more times to enjoy beautiful union with my wife for a short period of time – maybe a week or so, or at very most a month that way I don't have to go the rest of my entire life with a nagging mind thinking “gee how I would love to do this beautiful intimate act with my wife and how I would like to try such and such with her”. Then after I got my desires finished with her then we will abstain from sex for about a month or so to accumalte fire and the christic seed and then start the path of the razors edge – the path of no return. After all, it is gnosis and one must find this truth for themselves not through dogma. Also I know you folks preach about getting rid of desire but is that really truthful? If that is so why would one burn incense in their house and listen to relaxing classical music and have beautiful flowers in their house and get massages, and why does Samael Aun Weor talk about being in “ecstasy” listening to the Angel singing in the Jinn state temple. I think the Arcanum AZF, the path of the razors edge is a good workable system which I will follow eventually so I can escape from samsara. But lets be realistic, if there was no desire we would marry an unattractive wife and there would be no beauty or art in this world, no desire for health or well being. Without desire you might as well stay in a dark closet all day until you die of starvation. I read Samael Aun Weor and I separate the wheat from the chaff. I don't believe everything he says like we should only listen to classical music -there is a lot of other beautiful music besides that. I have a mind of my own and don't blindly follow this man who gained his teachings from Krum-Heller. I don't blindly follow any one. The true gnostic must arrive at this knowledge through gnosis. Still I do like to weigh your opinions in my mind and reflect on them because I have the humility to realize I may not be right in everything. Also I don't know if I trust the bible for answers since it is a book that states you should not suffer a witch to live so I can't rely on a book of corruption for answers. So yeah if I ever get a wife I think I will fornicate with her in mutual joy for about a week or a month at most – and then enter the path of the razors edge. And Samael Aun Weor ain't right in everything - after all this fellow did say that at the end of the 20th century science would be able to read the akashic records.
Accepted Answer
Inverential Peace, or peace unto you!
And with the truth We have sent the Qur'an down (or any prophetic teaching), and with the truth it has descended. And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad] (and we can even say all the prophets, including Samael Aun Weor), except as a bringer of good tidings and a warner.
And [it is] a Qur'an (gnostic teaching) which We have separated [by intervals] that you might recite it to the people over a prolonged period. And We have sent it down progressively (just as Samael Aun Weor wrote numerous Christmas Messages, different books, throughout his initiatic process).
Say, "Believe in it or do not believe. Indeed, those who were given knowledge (marif'ah, gnosis) before it - when it is recited to them, they fall upon their faces in prostration,
And they say, "Exalted is our Lord! Indeed, the promise of our Lord has been fulfilled."
And they fall upon their faces weeping, and the Qur'an increases them in humble submission. -Surat Al-'Isrā' 105-109
Alif, Lam, Meem.
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of existence.
He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad] (including Samael Aun Weor and all the prophets) the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel (just as Samael Aun Weor unveiled the Fifth Gospel, the Gospel of Aquarius).
Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an. Indeed, those who (dogmatically) disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution.
Indeed, from Allah nothing is hidden in the earth nor in the heaven.
It is He who forms you in the wombs (of the Divine Mother in sexual magic through the second birth) however He wills. There is no deity except Him, the Exalted in Might, the Wise.
It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them] (out of their dogmatic fanaticism, saying that only some things by the Prophet Samael Aun Weor are acceptable, while others are not). And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge (marifah, gnosis) say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord (we do not separate wheat from wheat, since all of it is pure)." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding (Binah: the Holy Spirit, the fire of comprehension which will burn away the chaff of one's dogmatic rejection of the prophets, thereby resulting in genuine marif'fah, gnosis). -Surat 'Āli `Imrān 1-7
For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami
No man [GNOSTIC] can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
For after all these things do the AGNOSTICS seek: for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. - Matthew 6: 24-34
Akasha is the name of the first tattva, the primordial substance that inundates the entire space; all the other tattva (Fire-Tejas, Air-Vayu, Water-Apas and Earth-Prithvi) are modifications of these cosmic waters, all of them live and work within Akasha. All forms, thoughts, dreams and ideas of the universe live in Akasha. There is no living thing in the universe that can exist without Akasha or multiply its species without it. Akasha is the substance from which every other substance emerges; Akasha is that which every other tattva emerges from; Akasha is where everything is in potency, and Akasha is where everything is in activity. Thus, Akasa appears in various positions. Wherever there is any room for any substance, there is Akasha.
Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5
Accepted Answer
Inverential Peace, or peace unto you!
And with the truth We have sent the Qur'an down (or any prophetic teaching), and with the truth it has descended. And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad] (and we can even say all the prophets, including Samael Aun Weor), except as a bringer of good tidings and a warner.
And [it is] a Qur'an (gnostic teaching) which We have separated [by intervals] that you might recite it to the people over a prolonged period. And We have sent it down progressively (just as Samael Aun Weor wrote numerous Christmas Messages, different books, throughout his initiatic process).
Say, "Believe in it or do not believe. Indeed, those who were given knowledge (marif'ah, gnosis) before it - when it is recited to them, they fall upon their faces in prostration,
And they say, "Exalted is our Lord! Indeed, the promise of our Lord has been fulfilled."
And they fall upon their faces weeping, and the Qur'an increases them in humble submission. -Surat Al-'Isrā' 105-109
Alif, Lam, Meem.
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of existence.
He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad] (including Samael Aun Weor and all the prophets) the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel (just as Samael Aun Weor unveiled the Fifth Gospel, the Gospel of Aquarius).
Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur'an. Indeed, those who (dogmatically) disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution.
Indeed, from Allah nothing is hidden in the earth nor in the heaven.
It is He who forms you in the wombs (of the Divine Mother in sexual magic through the second birth) however He wills. There is no deity except Him, the Exalted in Might, the Wise.
It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them] (out of their dogmatic fanaticism, saying that only some things by the Prophet Samael Aun Weor are acceptable, while others are not). And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge (marifah, gnosis) say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord (we do not separate wheat from wheat, since all of it is pure)." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding (Binah: the Holy Spirit, the fire of comprehension which will burn away the chaff of one's dogmatic rejection of the prophets, thereby resulting in genuine marif'fah, gnosis). -Surat 'Āli `Imrān 1-7
For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami
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