Tuesday, 06 May 2014
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Hello. This is in connection with, and a follow-up to, my issue posting of about 12 hours ago, (Here it is displayed in the posting appearing below.), regarding my wanting a gnostic teacher who would hold sacred the Gnostic meeting time slot. I am hereby making a call for a real Gnostic teacher to make self available for an in-person weekly Gnostic teaching to take place in Chicago. I already know of the particular library location in Chicago where a very nice setup exists with reservable study rooms. Such a room can be had for two hours maximum. And a larger meeting-sized study room is available too, when the group grows.

Ideally I would want a teacher who is at least practicing maithuna because that in itself puts the teacher in a markedly higher level of development. Learning from someone who has just read ahead in the gnostic materials and attended the retreats and impressed them there with her beauty amounts to the blind leading the blind. A sufficient true inner level of advancement has to exist in the teacher in order to avoid the effect of the-blind-leading-the-blind.

How about it? Any responses? I am expressing eagerness and enthusiasm to continue my Gnostic learning in Chicago, from an in-person teacher, but a good one, please. Thank you. I await real help on this matter.
8 years ago
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#6624
Accepted Answer
Just for your information, the Gnostic Academy of Chicago is associated with Glorian Publishing. There is another group in Chicago that calls itself Chicago Gnosis Teachings, which you can also find on MeetUp.com, but we are in no way affiliated with this group. We make this clear, because some students are confused as to whether we have anything to do with them, and we don't.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

8 years ago
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#6625
As for the rest of it, let me put it this way:

-Wise move to keep making it clear that you are not affiliated with the other group. I mean, that's what I would do too, if I were you.

-Dude. What if you accidentally informed me of the existence of a thing, like a... umm... particular restaurant, whose tacos I am no longer eating? Du-u-u-u-de. ;)

Incidentally, as FYI's go, I hope someone does not get the notion that all Gnosis things listed in a given place, like Chicago, are actual "groups", as with students in them. That is what I have learned from experience. For instance, I know of one particular Gnostic gig in my area that just lost it's only student. (Du-u-u-u-u-de. ) I'll tell you this, if I were teaching something and I had only one real student coming, and he was a really devoted guy who kept showing up week after week, and doing this for months on end, the last thing I'd ever do would be to start playing Jack around games with that person. Yes, I would personally be a lot more careful if I were a teacher with just one student. Word! (Folding my arms across my chest. Nodding solemnly.)

I will try your personally vouched-for recommendation, your Gnostic missionary friend with the great lecturing style, the one you mentioned in your earliest reply. I will go there to their meeting scheduled for may 17th at the Edgebrook Public Library, in Chicago. Thanks for that recommendation. I am now singing, "High hopes". If that does not work out for me, I just won't say anything more on the matter. Because I do not intend to make a career out of this issue.

And lastly, I may cry sometimes when life is very tough on me, but I am a serious student who is highly demanding on whoever would be my teacher.
8 years ago
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#6624
Accepted Answer
Just for your information, the Gnostic Academy of Chicago is associated with Glorian Publishing. There is another group in Chicago that calls itself Chicago Gnosis Teachings, which you can also find on MeetUp.com, but we are in no way affiliated with this group. We make this clear, because some students are confused as to whether we have anything to do with them, and we don't.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

8 years ago
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#6588
I've read your last reply and I accept it as a conclusive answer.

My computer skills are so abysmal that I do not know how to get a picture from somewhere and put it where it needs to go in order to provide artwork for the site. So you see, it is a problem for me, this need to have to do that thing before I can do the thing I really need to do.

However, never fear, I will do this: The library location where his meetup takes place happens to be quite near and accessible to me. I intend to drop in and introduce myself in person. And then I intend to get his help, or the help of someone there, on this picture matter. Perhaps it can be licked right on the spot using the library's citizen-access computers.

I read with interest your description of the all-levels-accessible style of teaching. That sounds so ideal and so valuable of a skill to have. I can readily see how privileged and lucky I will be if I am able to work things out to attend his lectures.

Thank you, thank you.

Should I keep this thread open still, for the purpose of my reporting back after I go to his next scheduled meeting on May the 17th, or should I click on "Accept As Answer" now?
8 years ago
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#6586
I've talked with the instructor before: you do not need a personal image. If you do not want a personal image, you can post some religious art. Many students have done this. It is just extra artwork for the website, not an intrusion of one's privacy.

Also, I have had the distinct pleasure of hearing this instructor from the Gnostic Academy of Chicago speak, giving his "Beginner's Level Lectures." While advertised to beginners, his lectures are not hollow, boring, or superficial. He is very different from many missionaries that I have heard, because I have seen him take challenging concepts and make them accessible without watering or "dumbing things down" through a very rigid and simple-minded curriculum. He is very direct and challenges his students to study and practice, something that everyone needs to learn, whether as an "advanced" or "beginner" student.

From what I can tell, the words "Beginner's Level Lecture" are there to help fish for students in Chicago. Knowing him, he is probably going to change the meetup name for Beginner's Level Lecture, since he is really teaching to many levels of students in his group and the title of the series does not accurately portray the lectures themselves. I would say it is a lecture series for different levels of understanding. It's a particular gift he has for teaching that I try to emulate.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

8 years ago
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#6585
Thank you, dear Benedictus, but please stay with me to facilitate a step longer as this issue has not yet reached its final resolution, and I need to please ask you to help me with another step in this:

I looked at The Gnostic Academy of Chicago. It is a "meetup" inside the site called "Meetup.com". I signed up for an account in Meetup.com, no problem. But when I attempted to join the meetup named The Gnostic Academy of Chicago, I cold not get past the picture step unless I submit a picture. This is a problem because I do not want to submit a picture. I do not wish to feed the face-hungry goblin that hides somewhere in that whole internet. And I also do not wish to be oh-so-cleverly slick by submitting a picture of something such as a beautiful sunset or a rainbow.

In my past experience with meetups at Meetup.com, what I recall is that many nice meetup organizers are completely unaware that there is some type of a parameter which is set on the organizer's side of the meetup, which requires that a person who joins must submit a picture. So these nice organizers go around saying, "But I do not require a picture! It does not say anywhere on my site that a picture is required! That's ridiculous, who told you that you need a picture?". And they refuse to believe that the joining procedure itself won't let a person get past the picture stage unless they submit one.

Dear Benedictus, this matter, my getting into a good Gnosis school, is so important to me that I do not wish to risk accidentally perturbing the organizer of The Gnositic Academy of Chicago with trying to explain the above to him. I actually stopped using Meetup.com a couple of years ago precisely because it was so hard to tell organizers that they require a picture when they do not wish to understand what is being explained to them, and they keep denying that a picture is required. (Gosh, I sincerely hope that I am communicating this clearly enough here, because it is a difficult matter to precisely get across.) So, would you please be kind enough in your extended goodness, to contact your friend and to tell him of this and to have him make that adjustment on his site so that I can join without the superficiality of a picture?


More: if you were to look at the meetings which that academy has had so far, as posted on the Meetup site, you too will notice that they are all of them at the beginner level. I am not having pretenses to be above that level, nor to be above anything really, however I do hope to be able to progress in "levels", and so I do hope that The Gnostic Academy of Chicago is offering instruction that progresses higher.

Thank you again, and I am awaiting your followup response to the intermediate progress situation I described above.

Sincerely,
AlexWalex
8 years ago
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#6581
I know a missionary serving in Chicago who is part of our organization. He has many years experience teaching gnosis and guiding others at our retreats. It would be best for you to speak to him personally, since he knows about a lot of the type of problems you've related in relation to spiritual and gnostic groups. You can contact him at Chicago [at] gnosticteachings.org or join his website:

The Gnostic Academy of Chicago.

Hope this helps!

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

8 years ago
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#6577
Hello.
Li' ol' modest me, AlexWalex here.
I love going regularly to Gnosis lectures, but there are a couple of things that raise a flag in my mind already, and I want to state them first in terms of what I positively desire before I state them in the usual manner of relating a problem. So here goes, positively:
1. I need a gnostic teacher who will preserve the entire Gnostic lecture time for the Gnosis students, please.
2. I need a gnostic teacher who will gladly avail me to the larger Gnostic community, if such exists in my physical/geographical area, please.

Now please allow me to tell what the matter is with each of these.

Regarding 1:
I attend a weekly meeting to receive a Gnostic teaching in a place where free public rooms are reserved for the asking. For several times in a row already the Gnostic teacher from whom I have been receiving teachings proceeds to allow the persons who had the room reserved from a previous time to linger on in the room into the time reserved for the Gnosis lesson. She actually encourages them to do this, telling them that it is alright and that they can stay to finish their business. She refuses to do the right and expected procedure, which is to contact the management of the place, who actually are right there and available, and to ask them to please ensure that the room has been vacated from its previous users

My friends, we all know that the normal procedure is to ask the management to ensure that the room is vacated because the reservation goes through the management from the start, and thus the management is in a position to regulate this, and also because a room user asking the previous people to leave can potentially result in an altercation, thus management is the proper buffer from the start. But my Gnosis teacher, the one from whom I've been receiving lectures so far, does not understand this. I've shared this with a couple of friends and I find them being extremely surprised at this, to where they want to think that maybe my teacher is inviting them to the lecture, or maybe she is a pushover. But neither of those are true. She tells them that they are welcome to stay for as long as it takes to finish their own business in the room, and she is not a pushover, she is rather desirous of wielding authority and being regarded as the ultimate word, and everyone in her presence should be humble. I know the latter because I received that as an answer when I challenged her at one time for switching the lecture agenda on me.

More, I now am sure, just for myself, that she actually wants to intentionally cause for the Gnosis lecture time to be reduced, and this is because the last time she pulled her above-describe stunt, she had sat down on a chair outside the room, with her back turned towards the room. And why? So as to ensure that she won't be able to see whether the previous people have vacated the room yet or not, and this already being well past the end of their reserved time and well into the Gnosis lesson reserved time. And why in turn to that? My teacher does this in order to make sure that more time passes and is lost from the room time reserved for the Gnosis lecture.

My friends, after I have read some of the writings of Samael, from the books I ordered from Glorian, I now think that this Gnosis teacher of mine is turned evil and that she is a black magician. This alone is a good enough reason for me to be seeking another Gnosis teacher, a righteous one, please, either online or in my geographic area.

Let me anticipate something, if I may: Why don't I just read the readily available Gnosis lessons on this site? I can. And I do. I am a type of a traditionally-minded student who has been conditioned from many years of learning to do better in my learning when I receive an in-person lecture/review of the written material. There is just something to an in-person lesson which one can't put one's finger on. And I would be glad to merely read the online lessons if I were in an isolated place. But I am in Chicago.

Regarding 2:
I have been asking the very same Gnosis teacher to please introduce me to the wider circle of Gnosis people in the local area. She began putting off this request by telling me that this will occur in time. It has been months already, and I reitereated this request several times, to no avail. I finally told my teacher that it is plain and obvious to me that she does not want me to get to know the Gnosis people in the area, and I asked her for the reason why. I told her to start leveling with me. Her response was that she is intentionally keeping me away from the Gnosis gatherings in the area because she says that my heart chacra is not open, and that if I go and meet the other Gnosis people, they will remark negatively, as in this manner: "Look at this person. Oh why is his heart chacra not open yet? And just who is supposed to be the teacher, then? What sort of teacher left him in such a state!". Thus, to be clear, it was put to me in a manner of my inadequacy being a great shame which reflects badly on the Gnosis teacher.

I personally think that the above reason which I was given is a fake excuse, whether my heart chacra is truly open or not. It is logical to think that there would be Gnosis students of all levels in a gathering, and that being someone who has just started out should not be shameful.

What I know is that evil people who wish to do harm to others tend to first isolate the person who has been targeted. Murderers, and rapists do that, but also bullies and various types of con artists and beguilers do that. This is because when they separate a person from the balancing and safety and community which occurs in a group of people, they can more easily ply their intentions upon that person. These intentions could be false teachings, or in the least, a power trip.

Help! I love God, I love Quetzal Coatl and I love Gnosis and Samael, and I want to be taught properly, and in a community of Gnostics. I want to feel the warmth of a gathering of God-loving people. And if there aren't enough of them in and around Chicago, Illinois, then in the least I want to receive Gnostic teachings in a protected sacred time, when people who are studying secular subjects in the study room are not allowed to linger.

Is there anyone controlling this stuff? Is there a hierarchy holding the teachers accountable in some way? My desire is only to get a positive outcome, so I am not mentioning any names. However...CHICAGO! I need help here in Chicago, of all places.

Thanks for reading. And thanks much in my anticipation of being helped and remedied on this matter.

AlexWalex
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