Sunday, 23 March 2014
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I know I am ignorant for asking this question but insight from you people is always helpful and such a great joy. I recall from a lecture that I think was about meditation that astral projection are the same experience but astral projection is just out of the body and meditation is in the body. From what I gather they are both in the internal realms, so you can accomplish the same thing. I know of people who focus strongly on the astral projection and astral travel in there practices and barely mention meditation. Also master Samael more often I think refers to experience and gaining knowledge by lying down and entering the drowsy state and astral projection more than meditation.
So my questions are is one greater than the other?
Are they interchangeable? They are described as the same experience but they are always very separate, such as in the 6 bardos.
If they are can you astral project instead of meditate or say meditate throughout the night ?
Or is it they are just for different circumstances like if one is more convenient than the other?
Once you become more developed do they merge together and there is no distinction?
Am I just mixed up with the terminology?
I hope this question is understandable not a burden for you to answer. But through my ignorance I'm confused about the distinction. Thank you so much. Teachers of gnosis may you be eternally blessed!
8 years ago
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#6229
Accepted Answer
Astral travel is being conscious outside the physical body. Meditation is awakening consciousness here and now, learning to comprehend the mind in the deepest profundities of being.

When we meditate effectively, we awaken within the internal planes. An experience in meditation usually signifies that we have abandoned the physical body through drowsiness, self-reflection, and alert cognizance.

Astral travel is perfected when we comprehend and apply the science of meditation. Meditation is deepened when we learn to abandon the physical body and investigate the mysteries of life and death within the internal planes.

Samael Aun Weor taught meditation as the foundation for all genuine realization and as the essential practice of the Gnostic doctrine. We cannot achieve anything without meditation, including astral travel, occult powers, purity of mind, or creative comprehension.

Those who attempt to learn astral travel without meditation end up fascinated with novelties. They are not serious about working on themselves.

Those who meditate without learning astral travel eventually become stagnant, since to comprehend the deeper levels of the mind, we need to awaken within the internal dimensions.

Both practices are essential, but in order to get there, we must meditate.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

8 years ago
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#6229
Accepted Answer
Astral travel is being conscious outside the physical body. Meditation is awakening consciousness here and now, learning to comprehend the mind in the deepest profundities of being.

When we meditate effectively, we awaken within the internal planes. An experience in meditation usually signifies that we have abandoned the physical body through drowsiness, self-reflection, and alert cognizance.

Astral travel is perfected when we comprehend and apply the science of meditation. Meditation is deepened when we learn to abandon the physical body and investigate the mysteries of life and death within the internal planes.

Samael Aun Weor taught meditation as the foundation for all genuine realization and as the essential practice of the Gnostic doctrine. We cannot achieve anything without meditation, including astral travel, occult powers, purity of mind, or creative comprehension.

Those who attempt to learn astral travel without meditation end up fascinated with novelties. They are not serious about working on themselves.

Those who meditate without learning astral travel eventually become stagnant, since to comprehend the deeper levels of the mind, we need to awaken within the internal dimensions.

Both practices are essential, but in order to get there, we must meditate.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

8 years ago
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#6238
Thank you Benedictus you are always helpful and understanding. Theses questions arose because I tend to practice meditation late at night (sometimes 10 mins bursts throughout the day) and I don't think I have effectively yet. I have studied meditation without exertion a while back and have been trying to watch everything that comes up in the mind consciously but they seem to never stop. After watching these meaningless show of the mind and gaining no knowledge, I switch to an astral projection exercise in hope of seeing any results of my progress. Perhaps I need more willpower and this is an ego of laziness with the desire to have immediate results. I just hope I'm making progress. But this answered my question beautifully and I have much to try and comprehend. May you continue to have the strength and patience you always seem to posses!
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