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  Monday, 23 January 2012
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<p>In trying to find a way to be in equilibrium with my wife, I recently became aware of a practice which entails using pranayama and muscular contraction to prevent emission.  There is still some sense of 'orgasm', if you will, but there is no seminal release.  Aside from the obvious danger of 'slipping up' and having an accidental release, what is your position on this?</p>
<p>It seems to me that there is a lack of mechanical instruction regarding how to relate to the female.  My marriage was suffering because following your instructions essentially resulted in my wife being a 'passive observer' of the sexual relationship.  I could not bring her to much arousal even because I was so focused on not stimulating myself.  The wife then is like a sex doll that just lays there and is very disconnected.  I've asked about this before, and the answer seems to be 'yes, she just lays there'.  This does not make for a happy female in my personal experience.  Is there a different way to look at this?</p>
<p>For me it seems to be either 'learn to please her and retain the seminal fluid any way I can', or 'don't please her and have a failed marriage' or 'resign myself to a life of fornication for the sake of others happiness'.  I don't see any other viable options.</p>
12 years ago
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#454
Alchemy is not just about seminal retention. It is about sublimation of psycho-sexual forces, or the conscious manipulation of energy. This goes beyond the common experience of the sexual act as merely physical or carnal. One may not physically orgasm, but there can be a loss of energy depending on the state of our mind, what we think about and how well we are concentrated during alchemy. Remember that there are three types of Mercury:
  • Brute Mercury (physical semen)
  • Metallic Soul or Electronic Essence (transmuted sexual energy)
  • Mercury fecundated by fire (the Kundalini)

Although one may not lose the Brute Mercury, there can be a loss of the electronic essence of the sperm, the sexual force, depending on our mind state and how we utilize our consciousness. We must remember during alchemy not to stimulate ourselves so much that we lose our energy. As Hermes Trismegistus wrote in the Emerald Tablet, we must awaken our fire carefully and tend to it with much attention, meaning that we do not become so inflamed that there is an emission of any kind, physical or energetic.

As for the second part of your question, I do not know where you got that advice. That is certainly not what is advocated on this website, so let us clarify any possible misunderstandings.

We know from this tradition that one should not make too much movement during the sexual act in order to prevent over-stimulation. However, some movement is necessary in order to stimulate arousal between the couple and to procure the most comfortable position for both partners. As the prophet Muhammad declared in the Qur'an, the man must arouse his wife through caresses and kisses in order to properly perform the sexual act. Chastity does not imply a sterile, cold and "passive" relationship. It is conscious love in the most true sense of the word, fueled by kisses, caresses, and words of sweet tenderness and affection.

There are practitioners who are very advanced that, due to the absence of lust, perform the sexual act with very little movement. But that is their level. You need to love your spouse in the level you are at. If the woman lacks stimulation enough to produce humidity and the man needs an erection for chaste copulation, then the couple must awaken that fire through kisses, caresses and mutual affection.

Does this clarify?

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

12 years ago
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#456
This does help somewhat.

Could you give me an example of what would cause an energetic leakage using the mind? The other complaint my wife had was that I was focused on meditating and she could 'tell' that I wasn't really involved with her. I was just doing 'my thing' (she has no affinity with the practice). How can I relate with sexual affection without causing energy loss? Is it about observing ourselves to guard against lust?

The response that I received once before was that there often should be 'very little movement'. Certainly my wife does not approve! ;)

Part of my question is in the concept of 'turning up the heat' of the fire, where does pleasure fit in here? I mean can one experience intense 'orgasmic type' pleasure (without emission) if one is not lustful? Or is this mutually exclusive.
12 years ago
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#472
During alchemy, the couple must work to not identify with the mere physicality of the sexual act, but on the forces and energies present. Moreover, they must be transmuted through harmonious breathing or mantralization. If the couple fantasizes about other things, or is copulating merely for the sake of sensation, then that energy becomes invested in those sensations. As Samael Aun Weor wrote, "Wherever we direct attention, we expend creative energy." This is highly essential in Tantra.

Sexual connection, kisses and affection are pleasurable. The word Eden in Hebrew means, "Pleasure, bliss, ecstasy," but in a chaste way. Knowing the difference is a matter of experience, intuition and the discrimination of the consciousness. This type of pleasure resulting from the powerful energies present is not "orgasmic," but it is something else. There is chaste pleasure and fornicating pleasure, since Eden (Yesod) is dual. Chastity must be developed, and does not refer to abstinence, but to the pleasure of the sexual act in a clean way, in our bodies, minds and spirits.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

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