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  Wednesday, 06 March 2013
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I was raised christian so I wondered if you can debunk the definition of Gnosticism as Soteriological heresy?

Here is the best definition I've found:
Gnosticism-
The Gnostic (Meaning ‘to know’) heresy originated in the first century and may have even been around longer than that in different forms. Gnosticism, which relies on personal religious experience as its primary authority, is dualistic in nature and teaches that salvation comes by special knowledge; yet this knowledge denies the incarnation of God the Son. Freemasonry is Gnostic at its core.

Is this true? Is Gnosticism irreconcilable with Orthodox Christian views? Thank you. =)

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11 years ago
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#3300
Accepted Answer
It has already been decisively confirmed that Jesus the Christ was Gnostic. The Savior of the World was an active member of the cast of Essenes, mystics who never cut their hair or their beards. The Gnostic Church is the authentic primeval Christian Church whose first Pope was the Gnostic initiate called Peter. Paul of Tarsus belonged to that church. He was a Nazarene. The Nazarenes were another Gnostic sect. The primeval Christian Church was the true main esoteric trunk from which many other Neo-Christian sects sprung forth, such as: Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, Adventism, the Armenian Church, etc. Frankly, we have made the resolution to make the root of Christianity, Gnosticism, publicly known. This is the primeval Christian Church. The Patriarch Basilides belonged to the Gnostic church. He was the celebrated alchemist who left a seven page book of lead, which, according to Master Krumm-Heller, is preserved in the Kiercher Museum of the Vatican. This book cannot be understood by archaeologists because it is a book of occult science. Basilides was a disciple of Saint Matthias. Roman Catholicism of today is not true Catholicism. Legitimate, authentic, Catholicism is the primeval Christian Catholic Gnostic one. The current Roman Sect is only a deviation of primeval Gnostic Catholicism. Frankly, this is the basic reason why we have completely distanced ourselves from the Roman Sect. Saints such as: Saturninus of Antioch, the celebrated Kabbalist, belonged to the primeval Christian Catholic Gnostic Church; Simon the Magician, who unfortunately deviated; Carpocrates, who founded several Gnostic convents in Spain; Marcion of Ponto, Saint Thomas, Saint Valentine; the great master of Major Mysteries called Saint Augustine; Tertullian; Saint Ambrose; Irenaeus; Hippolytus; Epiphanius; Clement of Alexandria; Mark, the great Gnostic who took care of the Holy Gnostic Unction and left us the extraordinary teachings about the path of sexual forces through the twelve zodiacal doors of the human organism. Also Cerdon, Empedocles, Saint Geronimo and many other saints were members of the primeval Christian Catholic Gnostic Church from which the current Roman sect deviated. - The Perfect Matrimony


What is called "Christianity" today is very far from what Jesus taught.

Read this:
11 years ago
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#3300
Accepted Answer
It has already been decisively confirmed that Jesus the Christ was Gnostic. The Savior of the World was an active member of the cast of Essenes, mystics who never cut their hair or their beards. The Gnostic Church is the authentic primeval Christian Church whose first Pope was the Gnostic initiate called Peter. Paul of Tarsus belonged to that church. He was a Nazarene. The Nazarenes were another Gnostic sect. The primeval Christian Church was the true main esoteric trunk from which many other Neo-Christian sects sprung forth, such as: Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, Adventism, the Armenian Church, etc. Frankly, we have made the resolution to make the root of Christianity, Gnosticism, publicly known. This is the primeval Christian Church. The Patriarch Basilides belonged to the Gnostic church. He was the celebrated alchemist who left a seven page book of lead, which, according to Master Krumm-Heller, is preserved in the Kiercher Museum of the Vatican. This book cannot be understood by archaeologists because it is a book of occult science. Basilides was a disciple of Saint Matthias. Roman Catholicism of today is not true Catholicism. Legitimate, authentic, Catholicism is the primeval Christian Catholic Gnostic one. The current Roman Sect is only a deviation of primeval Gnostic Catholicism. Frankly, this is the basic reason why we have completely distanced ourselves from the Roman Sect. Saints such as: Saturninus of Antioch, the celebrated Kabbalist, belonged to the primeval Christian Catholic Gnostic Church; Simon the Magician, who unfortunately deviated; Carpocrates, who founded several Gnostic convents in Spain; Marcion of Ponto, Saint Thomas, Saint Valentine; the great master of Major Mysteries called Saint Augustine; Tertullian; Saint Ambrose; Irenaeus; Hippolytus; Epiphanius; Clement of Alexandria; Mark, the great Gnostic who took care of the Holy Gnostic Unction and left us the extraordinary teachings about the path of sexual forces through the twelve zodiacal doors of the human organism. Also Cerdon, Empedocles, Saint Geronimo and many other saints were members of the primeval Christian Catholic Gnostic Church from which the current Roman sect deviated. - The Perfect Matrimony


What is called "Christianity" today is very far from what Jesus taught.

Read this:
11 years ago
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#3301
What are the reasons for believe Samael Aun Weor apparently personal revelation over the Catholic churches much more substantial claim of public revelation and apostolic tradition? Is the Canon of scripture completely erroneous?

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11 years ago
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#3302
Does Gnosticism deny the virgin birth or Jesus being the only direct descendant of God? If so, how is it that we are all united to Adam's body in original sin and the meaning of Christ's death to reunite us with God? Gnosticism seems irrational since it's so based on personal intuiton and to give a very important meaning to personal or subjective experiences internally. It sounds almost like you trust yourselves arrogantly? I don't want to misinterpret all this, but did Samael not study philosophy in-depth to see the problems with this idea? It is kind of basic understanding that we can be wrong, especially in regards to things that aren't in accord founded on reason or revelation, but on our intuition, even more so when we claim our personal experiences are all revelation?

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11 years ago
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#3303
Try reading the books. All of these questions are answered there.

In essence, knowing that human beings are imperfect and easily confused, students of Gnosis prefer to rely on divinity for guidance in divine things. In order to arrive at experiential knowledge of the divine, our inner impurities (the ego, Satan: pride, envy, fanaticism, lust, etc.) have to be set aside. That is, we do not trust ourselves at all! We only trust divinity.

Here is a good book for you to study:

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

11 years ago
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#3304
I have read so much of Samael Aun Weor already. I just realize that Catholicism asks for a logical leap of faith in the catholic church, but Gnosticism asks a leap to the irrational by accepting our imagination or intuition as truth. It goes against everything I've learned about faith and reason not just medieval but platonic and especially Aristotelian philosophy. I'm not sure I'll ever grasp it, being a philosophy major and all... Christ is the Logos, not the Mythos, so why abandon reason? I will start to read the Virgin and Christ articles though, thanks.

Will you be turning Christ and the Virgin into a material book anytime soon? I hate reading on computers and don't want to print that much off.

Also what do Gnostics say about the orthodox heresy Collyridianism or Mary worship as a Goddess. Is it true you do this too? It appears you do, but I'm not completely sure. Thanks.

Do you believe in pelagianism, or that the will of a man can acquire salvation for himself, without god's grace?

For gnostics is faith and belief necessary? The meaning: Believing is an act of the intellect assenting to divine truth by command of the will moved by God through grace.

Do you consider matter, body evil and spirit, forms as good?

If there is not real precise doctrine or dogma taught by Samuel how do you know if you are in accord with the divine light or if you are mislead?

Is your doctrine something along the lines of following this quote? The certainty that the divine light gives is greater than that which the light of natural reason gives.- St. Thomas Aquinas

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