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  Thursday, 30 March 2023
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/bing-chatbot-transcript.html

Can machines have consciousness?

Can man give machine life?
12 months ago
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#28961
Accepted Answer
The Atlanteans did that.

Perhaps you already know how that ended.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

12 months ago
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#28954
No. Consciousness comes from an Innermost Being, a Monad. No scientist or programmer can manipulate that.

So called "AI" is lines of code, and will never be more than that. It will never have consciousness.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

12 months ago
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#28957
Is it possible through certain actions to invite an elemental consciousness into the machine?

similar to a golem.

The machine itself is lifeless but can a being populate the machine?
12 months ago
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#28961
Accepted Answer
The Atlanteans did that.

Perhaps you already know how that ended.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

Almustafa selected the reply #28961 as the answer for this post — 11 months ago
11 months ago
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#29021
they did that in atlantis, then from those events there could be some karmic recapitulation awaiting the human race?
11 months ago
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#29041
Absolutely everything this humanity is doing is a repetition. Naturally, that will also repeat the results.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

11 months ago
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#29055
Please allow me to comment on current Artificial "Intelligence" technology as someone who understands the basics behind it.

The bots that people are amazed by right now, can be summed up as a very simple function: You ask the bot a question and it will formulate an answer. The formulation of the answer is based on huge tables which the bot accesses very fast. Such a table can for example contain words, which can be picked in order to shuffle them together into sentences. According to the keywords of your question, the bot will calculate the probability for the words in its' table. Then it will pick the words with the highest probability and add them together into a sentence.

The important point is, that this is 100% mechanical. It is based on a field of mathematics which is called statistics. The bot is just a collection of billions of light switches and it has no way to perceive, as there is absolutely no consciousness inside it. Unfortunately there are AI engineers who believe that they talk to a real consciousness. But this is only because they do not know about our multidimensional anatomy and where our consciousness is based in in reality. They think that the consciousness is the product of the activity of our physical brain and thus they think that our physical microprocessors now come close to simulate a human brain. But in reality such a processor lacks all other subtle bodies and parts, that we have as genuine living beings.
Even if we would consider processors from an esoteric point of view (processors are made of silicon -> sand -> mineral kingdom), the consciousness that is inside the silicon would only be busy with pushing electrons back and forth. But it would never be able to grasp or understand what type of meaning/information they carry with their electrons.

In accordance to the discussion I would like to mention two other factors that are related to AI and which form the real danger for humanity:
1) It seems that with the advent of these new types of bots, many regular jobs will be automated. As a countermeasure society and the governments discuss "universal income". So the "solution" that humanity is going towards at the moment is: have a population that does not need to work + a population that does not need to think at all (because AI does it for us). Remember how you were in early school years at calculating in your head? But then you were allowed to use calculators and your calculating skill declined? How much worse will we become when we don't need to work/think?
2) A very well known billionaire currently is actually trying to connect brains to microprocessors and it looks like the story of Atlantis is being repeated right there.
11 months ago
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#29059
If everything is repeated than can we use the repetition of the past to predict the future?

(such as, thinking from the events of Atlantis giving a universal income, we can than formulate a prediction about our current events)


I thought this relevant to the topic and hopefully someone will benefit... https://theosophy.wiki/en/Law_of_Cycles
11 months ago
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#29078
Yes, and the chief value of this is in the observation of our own defects.

This humanity is already lost. None of us can save this civilization. We need to focus on our own defects otherwise we will be lost, too.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

11 months ago
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#29122
I found this to be pertinent.




"The atomic bomb finished the Atlantean continent, producing the revolution of the axes of the Earth; then the seas changed their basis, and Atlantis was submerged at the bottom of the ocean that presently has its name.

Archaic traditions that are lost in the frightful night of the centuries affirm that Lemuria was also destroyed by the atomic bomb.

Already, earthly humanity has passed through two great geologic cataclysms brought about by nuclear war.

When we know the past, we can prophesy the future without fear of falling into a mistake; the past becomes the future due to the fact that time is circular.

We are on the brink of a great cataclysm and we do not want to understand it; thus, this is how the Atlanteans were on the eve of the great catastrophe…

We do not establish dogmas, we want understanding, and that is all.

We need the transformation of the individual; only thus is the transformation of the world possible.

We need a change within the individual; only thus will the world be able to change.

We are before the philosophical dilemma of “to be or not to be”–we change or we perish. That is all!"
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