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  Tuesday, 12 July 2022
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greetings,

this is from 'personal experience of transmigration of souls’ lecture of SAW.

“But there is a second class of hasnamussen who created the astral body, who have it, but did not create any other vehicle; they manufactured the astral body. well, this class of individuals, obviously if they do not eliminate what they have of hasnamussen (witchcraft, black magic, and all of those things of the sort), then there is no choice but to reincorporate them into animal organisms: dog, horses, cats, etc. etc. etc. they have to keep reincorporating themselves into animal bodies in order to eliminate what they have of hasnamussen.”

Samael mentions some specific obstacles which this 2nd type hasnamussen has to remove concluding with "and all of those things of the sort" which would be the host of egos.

the student's question: doesn't the removal of ego requite a conscious effort? Therefore, the three brained bi-ped mistakenly called human -being is the only platform thru which ego can be removed except for the second death of the abyss? (The Divine Mother may remove ego as conscious efforts are proven or when one reaches the ability to call upon the lords of Karma for negotiations exercising their capital.) in closing how would re-incorporating into the lower animal kingdom provide elimination of ego? animals have a two-dimensional brain therefore incapable of reasoning which is needed for removal of the ego. study has revealed much of the ego IS created within the lower animal kingdoms therefore referred to as animal passions, E.G. gluttony, pride, greed, lust, & anger. therefore, this is a mystery worthy of seeking in meditation.........

kind regards,
gizmo
1 year ago
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#27790
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It is important to remember that our consciousness exists in a spectrum. Some of the heavier, denser materials are at the bottom (Klipoth), while our consciousness resonates in the level of Malkuth, even though our true identity (the Being) is in the higher sephiroth (the heavens). Where we gravitate depends on our level of being and how we use energy.

Now what is confusing for some is that some parts of you can already be entering devolution even while you are physically active. This is because an individual is a composite of many interdependent parts. Just as you look at a tree and know it is constituted by roots, trunk, branches, leaves, bark, sap, and other elements, likewise the soul has many parts that are often disparate and divided due to our own conditioning and mistaken actions. Similar to a tree, some parts of it can be sick while others are healthy. Its relative degree of health depends upon its ecology and the relationship of all its different parts with one another. If too much of the tree is rotten, then the rest of it goes. The same with hasnamussen.

There are two dynamics at play. Both are a form of divine compassion for hasnamussen:

1) The hierarchs of karma take parts of their ego and distribute them within animals, so as to give such beings a fighting chance at initiation. For "if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell" (Matthew 5:30). Such egos retrogressively transmigrate within more inferior vehicles until they are finally disintegrated through the second death even while the particular hasnamuss is trying to work in the spiritual path.

2) Hasnamussen who definitively refuse to eliminate their ego fully enter devolution. These are the rotten trees of life that have no possibility of redemption, because too much of them is sick. Their soul disincarnates from their humanoid body and enters into animal, plant, and mineral states throughout their descent in the nine infernal regions of Klipoth.

Two-brained beings do not remove ego. They are the vehicles through which some hasnamussen egos transmigrate in the process of devolution towards the second death. The ego loses volume in its transmigration within animal bodies, but only thoroughly disintegrates through devolution in the infernal worlds after having passed through animal, plant, and mineral states. Just as souls evolve from mineral, plant, animal, to humanoid states, likewise the law sends certain egos into devolution when they are particularly ripe, malicious, and degenerate, entering simpler and simpler organisms (animal, plant, and mineral bodies) in the process of diminishing the ego (until it is annihilated in the Ninth Sphere).

However, hasnamussen who enter the revolutionary, initiatic path enter the Ninth Sphere (the perfect matrimony) willingly, so as to definitively put an end to their defects and acquire objective reasoning.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

Almustafa selected the reply #27790 as the answer for this post — 1 year ago
1 year ago
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#27790
Accepted Answer
It is important to remember that our consciousness exists in a spectrum. Some of the heavier, denser materials are at the bottom (Klipoth), while our consciousness resonates in the level of Malkuth, even though our true identity (the Being) is in the higher sephiroth (the heavens). Where we gravitate depends on our level of being and how we use energy.

Now what is confusing for some is that some parts of you can already be entering devolution even while you are physically active. This is because an individual is a composite of many interdependent parts. Just as you look at a tree and know it is constituted by roots, trunk, branches, leaves, bark, sap, and other elements, likewise the soul has many parts that are often disparate and divided due to our own conditioning and mistaken actions. Similar to a tree, some parts of it can be sick while others are healthy. Its relative degree of health depends upon its ecology and the relationship of all its different parts with one another. If too much of the tree is rotten, then the rest of it goes. The same with hasnamussen.

There are two dynamics at play. Both are a form of divine compassion for hasnamussen:

1) The hierarchs of karma take parts of their ego and distribute them within animals, so as to give such beings a fighting chance at initiation. For "if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell" (Matthew 5:30). Such egos retrogressively transmigrate within more inferior vehicles until they are finally disintegrated through the second death even while the particular hasnamuss is trying to work in the spiritual path.

2) Hasnamussen who definitively refuse to eliminate their ego fully enter devolution. These are the rotten trees of life that have no possibility of redemption, because too much of them is sick. Their soul disincarnates from their humanoid body and enters into animal, plant, and mineral states throughout their descent in the nine infernal regions of Klipoth.

Two-brained beings do not remove ego. They are the vehicles through which some hasnamussen egos transmigrate in the process of devolution towards the second death. The ego loses volume in its transmigration within animal bodies, but only thoroughly disintegrates through devolution in the infernal worlds after having passed through animal, plant, and mineral states. Just as souls evolve from mineral, plant, animal, to humanoid states, likewise the law sends certain egos into devolution when they are particularly ripe, malicious, and degenerate, entering simpler and simpler organisms (animal, plant, and mineral bodies) in the process of diminishing the ego (until it is annihilated in the Ninth Sphere).

However, hasnamussen who enter the revolutionary, initiatic path enter the Ninth Sphere (the perfect matrimony) willingly, so as to definitively put an end to their defects and acquire objective reasoning.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

1 year ago
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#27784
it is understandable that ego has to be comprehended thru meditation, an action only a humanoid can accomplish. along with using the sexual energies to remove.

let's clarify the original question: SAW states 2nd degree hasnamussen are re-incorporated into the bodies of animals ; cats dogs, horses, etc, etc ,etc for the process of removing what they have not removed which makes them hasnamussen during the humanoid cycle.

the question was: how can 2 brained animals which have no reasoning abilities removing ego when reasoning is required? observation comprehension and use of sexual energies.

thank you
1 year ago
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#27769
The death of the ego requires comprehension in meditation (which requires no effort) followed by work with the sexual energy (which does require effort).

Two ways are open to hasnamussen: initiatic death (through the three factors) or the second death (in hell).

Hasnamussen who definitively choose not to rise (through initiation) have no choice but to enter devolution, animal bodies, and disintegration within the hell realms (the second death).

The intellect guided by the spirit is useful for entering initiation. However, if the ego predominates, it enters within inferior bodies so as to devolve within the lower kingdoms, since the intellect is no longer useful and was not capitalized during one's humanoid existences.

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

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