One of the more active instructors on this site, in one of my favorite lectures entitled "defense for spiritual warfare part one, once mentioned that a fallen initiate is worser than an active demon, I tried comprehending this statement, but couldn't, how can this be, I mean the demon is harming others, the initiate only betrays the God's and his Buddha, therefore wouldn't it be more logical that the demon is worser than the fallen Initiate, any clarification would be appreciated
https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/defense-for-spiritual-warfare/defense-for-spiritual-warfare-part-1
https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/defense-for-spiritual-warfare/defense-for-spiritual-warfare-part-1
Accepted Answer
“Now, really, oh master! I feel smaller than an ant; as usual, I do not comprehend. If you dissolved the ego, the myself, then who was the tempter? In which way did you fall?...”
“Oh ... In the name of truth I want you to know that when the “I” is dissolved, the mind remains instead... Indubitably, this was the ‘cause causorum’ of my fall...”
“This is something unusual. I do not understand...”
“Passional matters—I fell in love. I committed the same error as the Count Zanoni, that is all...
“Such a maiden of mysterious enchantments was forbidden for me. However, I have to say that I fell, surrendering at the feet of this delectable female...
“Posteriorly, my Divine Mother Kundalini took me into the interior of a cavern, in the profundity of the mountain. Then I saw rain (tears), torrents of turbid water (bitterness), and mud (misery), etc., etc., etc...
“‘Behold, the future which awaits for you!’ my Mother exclaimed. My supplications were useless; I was not worthy of forgiveness. Again, I was committing the same crime. Finally, I saw her enclosing herself inside the Muladhara chakra, in the coccygeal bone. Then, woe to me! Woe! Woe!...
“I committed the very same error which on the archaic continent ‘Mu’ originated the angelical downfall...
“It is unquestionable that before entering into the Lemurian mysteries I had already committed the same crime...
“The allegory of the Biblical Adam, which is considered separated from the ‘Tree of Life,’ clearly signifies that the Lemurian race (who were already separated into opposite sexes) abused sexuality and sank into the region of animality and bestiality..." - Samael Aun Weor
Study this
And this
Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5
Accepted Answer
“Now, really, oh master! I feel smaller than an ant; as usual, I do not comprehend. If you dissolved the ego, the myself, then who was the tempter? In which way did you fall?...”
“Oh ... In the name of truth I want you to know that when the “I” is dissolved, the mind remains instead... Indubitably, this was the ‘cause causorum’ of my fall...”
“This is something unusual. I do not understand...”
“Passional matters—I fell in love. I committed the same error as the Count Zanoni, that is all...
“Such a maiden of mysterious enchantments was forbidden for me. However, I have to say that I fell, surrendering at the feet of this delectable female...
“Posteriorly, my Divine Mother Kundalini took me into the interior of a cavern, in the profundity of the mountain. Then I saw rain (tears), torrents of turbid water (bitterness), and mud (misery), etc., etc., etc...
“‘Behold, the future which awaits for you!’ my Mother exclaimed. My supplications were useless; I was not worthy of forgiveness. Again, I was committing the same crime. Finally, I saw her enclosing herself inside the Muladhara chakra, in the coccygeal bone. Then, woe to me! Woe! Woe!...
“I committed the very same error which on the archaic continent ‘Mu’ originated the angelical downfall...
“It is unquestionable that before entering into the Lemurian mysteries I had already committed the same crime...
“The allegory of the Biblical Adam, which is considered separated from the ‘Tree of Life,’ clearly signifies that the Lemurian race (who were already separated into opposite sexes) abused sexuality and sank into the region of animality and bestiality..." - Samael Aun Weor
Study this
And this
Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5
Wow. Thank you so much. This is me right now. I guess that’s why it’s called falling for a girl! It’s sad how we are given infinite patience and forgiveness and because of that we think we can fall temporarily and then act right later. I barely see how love can make us fall. For some reason I think this question relates to me. As always…much appreciated.
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