Friday, 20 December 2019
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Masturbation considered a sin in these tradition, my question is at what cost is the Act of Masturbation a sin, now raised as a Christian believer, we know very well the basic commands/law's regarding sexuality, such as "Thou shall not fornicate", "Thou shall not commit adultery", "The importance of marriage: that is one men and one women married strictly (in a sanctuary)", "Lust as beinh sinful", these law's in general are dealing with sexuality explicitly and also give a form of guidance on how to live accordingly to the will of God and to be in accordance with the spirit. And also the scriptures point that "celibacy is sinful, seek marriage and find true love at any cost and if one dies while in a marriage (find another one!), And also the scriptures point out that to be a lesbian and a homosexual is very sinful, all these guidelines are explicitly given in the holy scripture of the world. But out of all of these, one remain's and that is where my question is, and that is the "the act of masturbation", this is never explicitly mentioned in the scriptures, and the scriptures "do not mention these act to be a sin or not", but pornography for instance: when one is viewing such act's; one could somehow consciously remember what Jesus said in Mathew 5:27 through 28,

"27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell".

"and then one pray's to God that he helps him not to be lustful".
But of course there are doubts that these passage's have anything to with act of masturbation itself "or is it referring to the lust one get's while viewing pornography", and these verses do not clearly point out, if "masturbation in itself is a sin or not". Now in these tradition: it EXPLICITLY points out that masturbation is one hundred percent considered a sin,

"Since the Christian tradition emerged from Judaism, it is advisable to read the relevant articles on this topic from that tradition. The Bible is nonetheless quite clear about masturbation, although the word itself does not appear in the scripture. Consider these verses:

And if a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in water, and be unclean until the evening. And every garment and every skin on which the semen comes shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the evening. - Leviticus 15

Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. - 1 Corinthians 6

What? know ye not that fornication is not what the church has said it is? Study the real meaning of the word fornication.

Masturbation uses imagery and imagination to stimulate sexual desire. In the Bible, the use of the eyes is clearly related to sexuality.

I made a covenant with my eyes, and why should I gaze upon a woman? [...] If my heart was enticed to a woman... that is lewdness, and it is iniquity deserving punishment. For it is fire; it consumes to destruction... - Job 31

You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. - Matthew 5:28

...do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. For sin shall not be your master for you are not under law but under grace. - Romans 6:11-14

For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God... [...] For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. - 1 Thessalonians 4

A Comment by C. S. Lewis
For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back; sends the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides. And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman. For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifices or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no woman can rival. Among those shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect lover; no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification ever imposed on his vanity. In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself. Do read Charles Williams' Descent into Hell and study the character of Mr. Wentworth.

And it not only the faculty of love which is thus sterilized, forced back on itself, but also the faculty of imagination. The true exercise of imagination in my view, is (a) To help us understand other people, (b) To respond to, and, some of us, to produce art. But is has also a bad use: to provide for us, in shadowy form, a substitute for virtues, successes, distinctions, etc. which ought to be sought outside in the real world--e.g., picturing all I'd do if I were rich instead of earning and saving. Masturbation involves this abuse of imagination in erotic matters (which I think bad in itself) and thereby encourages a similar abuse of it in all spheres. After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is to be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison. - From a letter to a Mr. Masson dated March 6, 1956 in the Wade Collection at Wheaton College in Wheaton, IL

Incubi & Succubi
Masturbation utilizes creative sexual energy, but directed towards images projected in the mind. This energy creates mental forms, often called incubi (masculine forms) or succubi (feminine forms).

Lilith grows out of the wind just as the salamander grows from the fire. Lilith represents the classical example of the succubus in Jewish mythology. The incubus is a spirit which, taking the semblance of a man, has intercourse with mortal women. The succubus is a similar spirit which in the form of a woman behaves in a like manner with mortal men. The Hebrew Lilith was regarded as queen of the succubi by the theologians who spent much time investigating such matters. - Solomon ben Abraham (Salerno, 1160 CE)

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St. Augustine stated that “the devils (of Lilith) do indeed collect human semen, by means of which they are able to produce bodily effects.”

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As for the unclean spirits, there are males among them and there are females. The males are they which unite with the souls which inhabit a female form, but the females are they which are mingled with those in a male form, through one who was disobedient. And none shall be able to escape them, since they detain him if he does not receive a male power or a female power - the bridegroom and the bride.One receives them from the mirrored bridal chamber. When the wanton women see a male sitting alone, they leap down on him and play with him and defile him. So also the lecherous men, when they see a beautiful woman sitting alone, they persuade her and comple her, wishing to defile her. But if they see the man and his wife sitting beside one another, the female cannot come into the man, nor can the male come into a woman. - The Gospel of Philip".

And clearly state's that all the enlighten prophet's of God who have come to the world to be a sacrifice to the world and spread the knowledge of God where "white Magician's" that is they never spilled there semen in the sexual act; while United with there spouse sexually, and obviously I suppose never Mastubated even once while they were celibate's and enduring there ordeal's in the minor mysterie's, "including Jesus Christ the Nazarene who is considered a "Hierophant" in the hierarchy,
and one finds that these tradition is explicitly against fornication, adultery, the importance of marriage, and obviously heavily against Celibate's, lesbians and homosexual's: "it is stated man was made for the women, and women for the man",

Genesis 2:24: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."
To my point, why has the scriptures not pointed out the sinful nature of Masturbation, or why have the prophet's of the most high not exoterically given any guidelines to why Masturbation is a "sin", I mean esoterically one would say, "ofcourse in the act of Masturbation, one become's extremely Lustful and end's up ejaculating there semen or end's up reaching the orgasm, which is a sin obviously in these tradition: esoterically speaking, but let us say for instance one Mastubate's for spiritual benefits and at the end end's up not being lustful, or even ends up not ejaculating there semen (but transmute's it instead) and obviously avoid's reaching the orgasm, "would these also be considered sinful"?.
2 years ago
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#20620
Accepted Answer
There is no spiritual benefit to masturbation, which is what all those references and quotations explain.

All of those references point towards not defiling one’s body and soul, whether alone or in sexual union.

It does not matter if you ejaculate or not, because when you sexually stimulate yourself using imagination, it feeds desire, lust, ego.

When you masturbate, you copulate with your own sexual organs and create egos of homosexuality or lesbianism, because you are sexually relating to your own gender and feeding fantasy.

This is why signifies, etymologically:
Masturbation:

From the Latin words manstuprare, from manus "hand" (as in manual) + stuprare "defile" (oneself), from stuprum "defilement, dishonor," related to stupere "to be stunned, stupefied" (as in stupid).
People who masturbate, even for so-called spiritual purposes, become stupid and eventually homosexual, lesbian, transgendered, etc., in this or future lives (see the experience provided by the Gnostic Academy of Chicago lecture referenced below).

Masturbation is dishonorable and degenerates the mind, eventually leading to psychological imbalances.

Masturbation is the doctrine of Lilith, who relates to the inverted sephirah of Binah.

Binah is intelligence, but when inverted in hell is subtle stupidity.

Demons, while possessing enormous intellects, are really stupid, because they engage with many fascinating philosophical subtleties justifying masturbation while ignoring the tremendous sufferings caused by their desires.
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God. —1 Thessalonians 3:3-5
Therefore, control your body through transmutation and do not dishonor yourself through your own hands.
And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. —Matthew 5:30

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

2 years ago
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#20620
Accepted Answer
There is no spiritual benefit to masturbation, which is what all those references and quotations explain.

All of those references point towards not defiling one’s body and soul, whether alone or in sexual union.

It does not matter if you ejaculate or not, because when you sexually stimulate yourself using imagination, it feeds desire, lust, ego.

When you masturbate, you copulate with your own sexual organs and create egos of homosexuality or lesbianism, because you are sexually relating to your own gender and feeding fantasy.

This is why signifies, etymologically:
Masturbation:

From the Latin words manstuprare, from manus "hand" (as in manual) + stuprare "defile" (oneself), from stuprum "defilement, dishonor," related to stupere "to be stunned, stupefied" (as in stupid).
People who masturbate, even for so-called spiritual purposes, become stupid and eventually homosexual, lesbian, transgendered, etc., in this or future lives (see the experience provided by the Gnostic Academy of Chicago lecture referenced below).

Masturbation is dishonorable and degenerates the mind, eventually leading to psychological imbalances.

Masturbation is the doctrine of Lilith, who relates to the inverted sephirah of Binah.

Binah is intelligence, but when inverted in hell is subtle stupidity.

Demons, while possessing enormous intellects, are really stupid, because they engage with many fascinating philosophical subtleties justifying masturbation while ignoring the tremendous sufferings caused by their desires.
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God. —1 Thessalonians 3:3-5
Therefore, control your body through transmutation and do not dishonor yourself through your own hands.
And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. —Matthew 5:30

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

2 years ago
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#20951
In the passage:
"and one finds that these tradition is explicitly against; the importance of marriage".

Sorry guys I meant to say:
"And one finds that these tradition is heavily for marriage, celibacy is a sin!.
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