Wednesday, 26 June 2019
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So as far as I know if one creates the solar astral body one escapes from the 108 existences except if the initiate goes into devolution. My question is how does an initiate with a solar astral body go into devolution? One has to definitely have stopped working on oneself completely right? I guess if someone dies and is born in another physical body with a solar astral body and maybe because of influences, etc. one starts behaving degenerately that could be one way how. Just saying because I imagine it can take a long time to disintegrate the ego 100%. Also sometimes there’s challenges in the way like how sometimes we can try time and time again to experience the illuminating void for many years and nothing happens leaving us confused on how it is actually like to use the consciousness without it being trapped in the ego. We can meditate and imagine an event to try to comprehend specific “I”s and watch it as if watching a movie and like if it was someone else etc. and come to conclusions but not fully comprehending it, then regardless beseeching our Divine Mother for the dissolution of the group of “I”s related to the event. So actually I have a few questions:

1) how exactly does someone with a solar astral body go into devolution?

2) how does someone know when a defect has been totally comprehend? Do we just need to keep imagining an event over and over again without using thought till something happens?

3) if a person with a solar astral body goes into the infernal realm if they start working on themselves can they get another chance and be taken back to the surface?
4 years ago
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#18951
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Just as your physical body is only a vehicle, the astral body —whether solar or lunar— is only a vehicle. It is not the consciousness. Evolution and devolution is determined by the condition of the consciousness: if it is trapped in ego, then devolution is underway.

Acquiring a solar astral body provides an "anchor" in the superior worlds once the 108 lives are concluded, meaning that the consciousness might be able to continue some degree of work on themselves. But it is no guarantee against falling into klipoth.

Comprehension is known by observing oneself in the situations in our life that tempt or provoke the defect.

The door of repentance is always open, but the lower one falls the harder it is to enter.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

4 years ago
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#18951
Accepted Answer
Just as your physical body is only a vehicle, the astral body —whether solar or lunar— is only a vehicle. It is not the consciousness. Evolution and devolution is determined by the condition of the consciousness: if it is trapped in ego, then devolution is underway.

Acquiring a solar astral body provides an "anchor" in the superior worlds once the 108 lives are concluded, meaning that the consciousness might be able to continue some degree of work on themselves. But it is no guarantee against falling into klipoth.

Comprehension is known by observing oneself in the situations in our life that tempt or provoke the defect.

The door of repentance is always open, but the lower one falls the harder it is to enter.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

4 years ago
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#18956
I see..

As far as comprehending ones defects though, that’s what I’ve been doing. I’ve been observing daily and meditating doing a retrospection and choosing one event to comprehend the group of “I”s of that event... well I guess I have eliminated a few “I”s because I’ve noticed drastic changes in my life so yeah I guess I just answered my own question, I guess I just need to keep on doing it forever until it’s 100% annihilated. I just need to be patient I guess. Well thank you Alexis and I apologize, I always feel like I bug you guys with asking a lot of questions even though I know you guys are happy to answer... Thanks.
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