Tuesday, 07 May 2019
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Hello, for the sake of clarity I wanted to ask in regards to Hebrews 11 which says Enoch, Moses and all the other patriachs did not obtain the promise. How do we marry that with the teaching of Moses and Enoch being achieving Christification? I would sincerely appreciate some light being shed on this.

“And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:39-40‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
3 years ago
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#18570
Accepted Answer
"For (Moses, Enoch and) all the prophets and (all archetypes related with) the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man (in Tiphereth) presseth into it. And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail."


In other words, first one needs to work with the baptism of John, for John truly baptized with the creative waters of sexuality, which is the law given by Moses, but grace and truth comes in the Fifth Initiation of Major Mysteries when the Initiate incarnates Jesus Christ. So, through faith or Pistis one needs to reach the Fifth Initiation of Major Mysteries in order to receive the Venustic Initiation in Tiphereth, this, in order to incarnate the Son of God.

"And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from (the heavenly) Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For (in Yesod) John truly baptized with water; but (in Tiphereth) ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence." - Acts 1: 4, 5


Again, this is why in Greek Faith is “Pistis” which is the substance or waters of the Holy Spirit, which is the baptism of John, that through sexual alchemy performs all of those things described in Hebrews chapter 11. The spiritual things that Enoch, Moses and all the other patriarchs did, we must also perform within, before attaining the Venustic Initiation; because through Pistis in Daath, we receive Jesus, Sophia, Wisdom (Chokmah-Christ).

This is why Matthew, the Gospel of Yesod, that relates to all initiations or spiritual generations, that one needs to attain before the Venustic Initiation states:


Matthew Chapter1
[1] The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
[2] Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;
[3] And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
[4] And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
[5] And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;
[6] And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;
[7] And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;
[8] And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;
[9] And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
[10] And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;
[11] And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
[12] And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;
[13] And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;
[14] And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;
[15] And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;
[16] And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
[17] So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
[18] Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
[19] Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.
[20] But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
[21] And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
[22] Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
[23] Behold, a virgin (the Divine Mother Kundalini) shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
[24] Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
[25] And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.


Clarification: We have to comprehend that all of the personages of the Bible, namely, Prophets, Apostles, etc., even Jesus, are Archetypes in potentiality within the very depths of our own Being. These Archetypes need to be in activity by means of the power of the Holy Spirit, which is the sexual force that kabbalistically in the tree of life is named Yesod, Christ, or the Stone that the builders rejected.
Christ is not an archetype but the Logos, the solar light that becomes Christ in substance in our genitalia. The entire power of Christ, the Logos, manifests itself through Jesus or Yeshuah, when we incarnate him in the Venustic Initiation in Tiphereth.

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” - John 1: 14


Moses, Enoch and all the Prophets, namely, Krishna, Buddha, Mohammed, etc.... incarnated the Logos, the Word. Yet, each one of them represents an archetype, and the knowledge of the archetype that we need to develop.

Blessings

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

3 years ago
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#18561
How do we marry that with the teaching of Moses and Enoch being achieving Christification?

Let marriage be honorable in all and the bed undefiled; but the fornicators and adulterers God will judge. - Hebrews 13: 4


In Esoteric Christianity, the one who, in a marriage, is unfaithful, is the one who does not observe the vows of chastity, i.e. an unfaithful husband or wife.

This is why in Greek Faith is “Pistis” which is the substance of the Holy Spirit which through sexual alchemy performs all of those things described in Hebrews chapter 11. The spiritual things that Enoch, Moses and all the other patriarchs did, we must also perform within, before attaining perfect resurrection; because through Pistis we acquire Sophia, meaning, Wisdom (Chokmah-Christ).

The mind of a chaste christian is filled with an enlighten faith, is a faithful one or the one full of faith, light, which comprehends the written words of fire.

“For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith (Pistis, the soul of the mercury, the living substance of the Holy Spirit) without (alchemical sexual) works is dead also.” - James 2: 26

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

3 years ago
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#18564
So the question I have is thus: Did Moses, Enoch, Abraham etc receive this perfect resurrection?
Because it says there in Hebrews that they did not receive the promise.

I ask this because i’ve read many times on here where it was said that Moses as well as Enoch are resurrected masters. I’m trying to reconcile that teaching with this scripture that says they did not obtain the promise.
3 years ago
·
#18570
Accepted Answer
"For (Moses, Enoch and) all the prophets and (all archetypes related with) the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man (in Tiphereth) presseth into it. And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail."


In other words, first one needs to work with the baptism of John, for John truly baptized with the creative waters of sexuality, which is the law given by Moses, but grace and truth comes in the Fifth Initiation of Major Mysteries when the Initiate incarnates Jesus Christ. So, through faith or Pistis one needs to reach the Fifth Initiation of Major Mysteries in order to receive the Venustic Initiation in Tiphereth, this, in order to incarnate the Son of God.

"And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from (the heavenly) Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For (in Yesod) John truly baptized with water; but (in Tiphereth) ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence." - Acts 1: 4, 5


Again, this is why in Greek Faith is “Pistis” which is the substance or waters of the Holy Spirit, which is the baptism of John, that through sexual alchemy performs all of those things described in Hebrews chapter 11. The spiritual things that Enoch, Moses and all the other patriarchs did, we must also perform within, before attaining the Venustic Initiation; because through Pistis in Daath, we receive Jesus, Sophia, Wisdom (Chokmah-Christ).

This is why Matthew, the Gospel of Yesod, that relates to all initiations or spiritual generations, that one needs to attain before the Venustic Initiation states:


Matthew Chapter1
[1] The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
[2] Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;
[3] And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
[4] And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
[5] And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;
[6] And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;
[7] And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;
[8] And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;
[9] And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
[10] And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;
[11] And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
[12] And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;
[13] And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;
[14] And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;
[15] And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;
[16] And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
[17] So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
[18] Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
[19] Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.
[20] But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
[21] And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
[22] Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
[23] Behold, a virgin (the Divine Mother Kundalini) shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
[24] Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
[25] And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.


Clarification: We have to comprehend that all of the personages of the Bible, namely, Prophets, Apostles, etc., even Jesus, are Archetypes in potentiality within the very depths of our own Being. These Archetypes need to be in activity by means of the power of the Holy Spirit, which is the sexual force that kabbalistically in the tree of life is named Yesod, Christ, or the Stone that the builders rejected.
Christ is not an archetype but the Logos, the solar light that becomes Christ in substance in our genitalia. The entire power of Christ, the Logos, manifests itself through Jesus or Yeshuah, when we incarnate him in the Venustic Initiation in Tiphereth.

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” - John 1: 14


Moses, Enoch and all the Prophets, namely, Krishna, Buddha, Mohammed, etc.... incarnated the Logos, the Word. Yet, each one of them represents an archetype, and the knowledge of the archetype that we need to develop.

Blessings

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

3 years ago
·
#18571
Thank you very much, this clarifies things for me ??.
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