Friday, 18 January 2019
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If we awake our consciousness in the astral plane, will we have to go to hell anyway after we die, once we reach our 108th death?
3 years ago
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#17895
Accepted Answer
The only way to change our relationship with hell is by eliminating the psychological elements that trap our consciousness there.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

3 years ago
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#17895
Accepted Answer
The only way to change our relationship with hell is by eliminating the psychological elements that trap our consciousness there.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

3 years ago
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#18780
The only way to change our relationship with hell is by eliminating the psychological elements that trap our consciousness there.


Hello again dear Alexis.

I was thinking about the different combinations of death one can experience. I have this curiosity. What happens if one successfully eliminates the ego with solar bodies, but fails to master meditation and dies unconsciously? My guess is that whatever karma they have left is paid but since they have no ego in the end, they will eventually find themselves living in the superior worlds?
3 years ago
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#18785
If one successfully eliminates the ego and has the solar bodies, the consciousness is liberated and awakened. Because their inner hells are empty, they are awakened in the internal worlds. For them, meditation is effortless, spontaneous. They cannot die "unconsciously," since they are fully 100% awake.

All of this is because: if one successfully eliminates the entire ego and has the solar bodies, one has completed the second mountain and is a resurrected master.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

3 years ago
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#18800
If one successfully eliminates the ego and has the solar bodies, the consciousness is liberated and awakened. Because their inner hells are empty, they are awakened in the internal worlds. For them, meditation is effortless, spontaneous. They cannot die "unconsciously," since they are fully 100% awake.

All of this is because: if one successfully eliminates the entire ego and has the solar bodies, one has completed the second mountain and is a resurrected master.


Ah I see, so ego and consciousness work hand in hand that way.

I understand that the ego is hell, thus to clarify, the severity of hell depends on the strength of the egos? (and of course karma)

What about the devolution experience? Do people with small ego's have "smoother" devolution journey's than people with fat ones?
3 years ago
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#18801
Ego and consciousness "hand in hand" is not a 1:1 ratio. You specified the presence of solar bodies, which changes the equation.

Egos are false creations that trap consciousness. They are not normal or natural. If they are completely removed from a person, the consciousness is then freed, normal, natural. That person would be 100% awakened, but would not be a master, much less a resurrected master. They would simply be a very pure elemental. To become a human being, one must create the solar bodies, then perfect them. If there is no ego present, that process is easy. Our case is obviously very different.

Eery experience —whether in a body or out of a body (ie. in heaven or hell) — is the exact outcome of cause and effect. Hell and devolution are simply the mechanical result of mistaken actions: the more severe the accumulated consequences, the more severe the mechanical process that responds.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

3 years ago
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#18813
Every experience —whether in a body or out of a body (ie. in heaven or hell) — is the exact outcome of cause and effect. Hell and devolution are simply the mechanical result of mistaken actions: the more severe the accumulated consequences, the more severe the mechanical process that responds.


Ah okay, that makes perfect sense.
3 years ago
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#18814
They would simply be a very pure elemental. To become a human being, one must create the solar bodies, then perfect them.


What happens again to these pure elementals after their last life?
3 years ago
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#18831
They start over.

The only way off of the wheel is through mastery.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

3 years ago
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#18834
They start over.

The only way off of the wheel is through mastery.


Oh right right the elemental beings of this world, that would make sense.
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