Wednesday, 01 August 2012
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The spirit is pure and never falls. The aspect that does is the human soul or consciousness. It becomes imprisoned and subjected by the ego. The question is though does it remain purelight even when it is subjected or does it mix with the taintings of the ego? Can the ego tarnish the substance or essence light of the human soul? or because it belongs to the spirit it remains unblemished?
10 years ago
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#1786
Accepted Answer
The nature of the soul is in the Absolute, which cannot be made impure. However, the soul trapped in impurity suffers until it is freed.

"Bliss is the essential nature of man. The central fact of man's being is his inherent divinity. Man's essential nature is divine, the awareness of which he has lost because of his animal propensities and the veil of ignorance. Man, in his ignorance, identifies himself with the body, mind, Prana and the senses. Transcending these, he becomes one with Brahman or the Absolute who is pure bliss. Brahman or the Absolute is the fullest reality, the completest consciousness. That beyond which there is nothing, that which is the innermost Self of all is Atman or Brahman. The Atman is the common Consciousness in all beings. A thief, a prostitute, a scavenger, a king, a rogue, a saint, a dog, a cat, a rat-all have the same common Atman. There is apparent, fictitious difference in bodies and minds only. There are differences in colours and opinions. But, the Atman is the same in all. If you are very rich, you can have a steamer, a train, an airship of your own for your own selfish interests. But, you cannot have an Atman of your own. The Atman is common to all. It is not an individual's sole registered property. The Atman is the one amidst the many. It is constant amidst the forms which come and go. It is the pure, absolute, essential Consciousness of all the conscious beings. The source of all life, the source of all knowledge is the Atman, thy innermost Self. This Atman or Supreme Soul is transcendent, inexpressible, uninferable, unthinkable, indescribable, the ever-peaceful, all-blissful. There is no difference between the Atman and bliss. The Atman is bliss itself. God, perfection, peace, immortality, bliss are one. The goal of life is to attain perfection, immortality or God. The nearer one approaches the Truth, the happier one becomes. For, the essential nature of Truth is positive, absolute bliss. There is no bliss in the finite. Bliss is only in the Infinite. Eternal bliss can be had only from the eternal Self. To know the Self is to enjoy eternal bliss and everlasting peace. Self-realisation bestows eternal existence, absolute knowledge, and perennial bliss. None can be saved without Self-realisation. The quest for the Absolute should be undertaken even sacrificing the dearest object, even life, even courting all pain. Study philosophical books as much as you like, deliver lectures and lectures throughout your global tour, remain in a Himalayan cave for one hundred years, practise Pranayama for fifty years, you cannot attain emancipation without the realisation of the oneness of the Self." - Swami Sivananda


In Buddhism, it is explained that the inherent nature of the consciousness is like water or light. If you put dirt in a glass of water, it will look muddy. But if you let it rest, the dirt will settle to the bottom, revealing the purity of the water. You can also filter the dirt away. In the end, the water is unchanged. Even in science, it is said that water has remained the same through time as it has passed through so many bodies, rivers, lakes, seas, clouds, etc. SO, the consciousness is like that. It passes through conditioning, but conditioning is always impermanent. However, while conditioned, it remains stagnant, suffering, unable to reach its purpose. This is the limitation of the water analogy. Consciousness needs to expand, to grow, but it cannot while conditioned by ego.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

10 years ago
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#1786
Accepted Answer
The nature of the soul is in the Absolute, which cannot be made impure. However, the soul trapped in impurity suffers until it is freed.

"Bliss is the essential nature of man. The central fact of man's being is his inherent divinity. Man's essential nature is divine, the awareness of which he has lost because of his animal propensities and the veil of ignorance. Man, in his ignorance, identifies himself with the body, mind, Prana and the senses. Transcending these, he becomes one with Brahman or the Absolute who is pure bliss. Brahman or the Absolute is the fullest reality, the completest consciousness. That beyond which there is nothing, that which is the innermost Self of all is Atman or Brahman. The Atman is the common Consciousness in all beings. A thief, a prostitute, a scavenger, a king, a rogue, a saint, a dog, a cat, a rat-all have the same common Atman. There is apparent, fictitious difference in bodies and minds only. There are differences in colours and opinions. But, the Atman is the same in all. If you are very rich, you can have a steamer, a train, an airship of your own for your own selfish interests. But, you cannot have an Atman of your own. The Atman is common to all. It is not an individual's sole registered property. The Atman is the one amidst the many. It is constant amidst the forms which come and go. It is the pure, absolute, essential Consciousness of all the conscious beings. The source of all life, the source of all knowledge is the Atman, thy innermost Self. This Atman or Supreme Soul is transcendent, inexpressible, uninferable, unthinkable, indescribable, the ever-peaceful, all-blissful. There is no difference between the Atman and bliss. The Atman is bliss itself. God, perfection, peace, immortality, bliss are one. The goal of life is to attain perfection, immortality or God. The nearer one approaches the Truth, the happier one becomes. For, the essential nature of Truth is positive, absolute bliss. There is no bliss in the finite. Bliss is only in the Infinite. Eternal bliss can be had only from the eternal Self. To know the Self is to enjoy eternal bliss and everlasting peace. Self-realisation bestows eternal existence, absolute knowledge, and perennial bliss. None can be saved without Self-realisation. The quest for the Absolute should be undertaken even sacrificing the dearest object, even life, even courting all pain. Study philosophical books as much as you like, deliver lectures and lectures throughout your global tour, remain in a Himalayan cave for one hundred years, practise Pranayama for fifty years, you cannot attain emancipation without the realisation of the oneness of the Self." - Swami Sivananda


In Buddhism, it is explained that the inherent nature of the consciousness is like water or light. If you put dirt in a glass of water, it will look muddy. But if you let it rest, the dirt will settle to the bottom, revealing the purity of the water. You can also filter the dirt away. In the end, the water is unchanged. Even in science, it is said that water has remained the same through time as it has passed through so many bodies, rivers, lakes, seas, clouds, etc. SO, the consciousness is like that. It passes through conditioning, but conditioning is always impermanent. However, while conditioned, it remains stagnant, suffering, unable to reach its purpose. This is the limitation of the water analogy. Consciousness needs to expand, to grow, but it cannot while conditioned by ego.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

10 years ago
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#1791
Thanks, the reason i asked is because the four bodies of sin are the physical, etheric, astral and mental bodies.

The soul is not included as being one of the four bodies of sin.

So then, like the spirit it is unblemishable as a substance of light.

It retains its utmost spiritual purity even when subjected by impurities.

Psychological death can be considered in part, a matter of liberating the pure from the impure.

Seperating the black smoke from the pure flames.
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