Sunday, 21 October 2018
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Hi,

I have been reading a lot to understand meditation and i find writings of Master Samael Aun weor very precious however certain writing of master is very hard to accept as my mind is too skeptic (Problem of Virgos ), like divine being and father and gods and masters i do like to believe in all that but all that is not a reality for me ,now practices does bring help like magical square and other spiritual practices but here's the weird statement master Jiddu Krishnamurti made that if you vocalize coca cola day and night you will induce certain experiences but that would be self hypnosis. as long as the self is there observing, making efforts, trying to change what is, the real meditation will not take place( Like sometime that moments comes when we see something and instantly understanding arises because self was absent and sometimes self is trying to know, observe and analyse something but understanding does not come ). all practices help because we stay distorted during the day and by practicing we acquire energy and then again we do all mischief with that energy. Only if it is possible to live meditatively and to awaken that intelligence that function without resistance.

Now the question arises what one can do to know the truth of all this.Weather we do our practices or not.

Note:- I am not trying to compare the teachings or doubting the masters capability, as a serious human being who wants to change himself, i put this question to myself daily to come upon that thing called meditation.



Inverential Peace
4 years ago
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You cannot get where you want to go unless you start walking.

If you do not practice, you will never conquer suffering.

However, to practice effectively, one needs the right perspective. This is how you avoid hypnotizing yourself with false notions:

Remember this phrase: “Gnosis is lived upon facts, withers away in abstractions, and is difficult to find even in the noblest of thoughts.” ... When the doors of fantasy [beliefs] are closed, the organ of intuition awakens. - Revolution of the Dialectic


Real Meditation and real spirituality begin with facts.

This first requirement is very difficult for some people. All of us have cherished beliefs, ideas, and theories, and we want life and spirituality to be certain ways. We all have religious or spiritual ideas, and ideas of who we are as a person, or how our culture is, or society. We have a whole huge collection of beliefs. But, in spite of our theories, beliefs, and ideas, we suffer.

If we really want to deal with our suffering, if we really want to change it, the first thing that we have to be willing to do is set aside beliefs, ideas, and notions that we have about ourselves and the world. We have to set aside everything that we cannot prove. Instead, we must resolve ourselves to deal only in facts: observable facts, repeatable facts.

If you think about this, and analyze this, you will realize that this forms a very powerful basis for your spiritual life. If you believe something and you cannot prove it, you could spend a lifetime believing in something that was not real. That is a waste of an entire lifetime. Wouldn't it be better to take the approach that all the great teachers gave, which is to pursue only what you can prove though your own experience? All the great traditions have that in their scriptures and teachings, but people set that aside. People prefer to just “believe,” because it is easier, comforting, and requires no effort. Everyone wants to adopt a theory, belief, or way of behaving for their redemption, their salvation from suffering. But: they cannot prove that their beliefs will liberate them.

We prefer to deal in facts. (And yes, there are spiritual facts that you can prove through your own experience, but like any science, you must go step by step, scientifically, and set theories and beliefs aside).

So observation of facts is where we must begin if we want to develop an effective spiritual life and an effective Meditation practice.

This is the first important basis of effective Meditation practice: focus on the facts.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

4 years ago
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#17327
Accepted Answer
You cannot get where you want to go unless you start walking.

If you do not practice, you will never conquer suffering.

However, to practice effectively, one needs the right perspective. This is how you avoid hypnotizing yourself with false notions:

Remember this phrase: “Gnosis is lived upon facts, withers away in abstractions, and is difficult to find even in the noblest of thoughts.” ... When the doors of fantasy [beliefs] are closed, the organ of intuition awakens. - Revolution of the Dialectic


Real Meditation and real spirituality begin with facts.

This first requirement is very difficult for some people. All of us have cherished beliefs, ideas, and theories, and we want life and spirituality to be certain ways. We all have religious or spiritual ideas, and ideas of who we are as a person, or how our culture is, or society. We have a whole huge collection of beliefs. But, in spite of our theories, beliefs, and ideas, we suffer.

If we really want to deal with our suffering, if we really want to change it, the first thing that we have to be willing to do is set aside beliefs, ideas, and notions that we have about ourselves and the world. We have to set aside everything that we cannot prove. Instead, we must resolve ourselves to deal only in facts: observable facts, repeatable facts.

If you think about this, and analyze this, you will realize that this forms a very powerful basis for your spiritual life. If you believe something and you cannot prove it, you could spend a lifetime believing in something that was not real. That is a waste of an entire lifetime. Wouldn't it be better to take the approach that all the great teachers gave, which is to pursue only what you can prove though your own experience? All the great traditions have that in their scriptures and teachings, but people set that aside. People prefer to just “believe,” because it is easier, comforting, and requires no effort. Everyone wants to adopt a theory, belief, or way of behaving for their redemption, their salvation from suffering. But: they cannot prove that their beliefs will liberate them.

We prefer to deal in facts. (And yes, there are spiritual facts that you can prove through your own experience, but like any science, you must go step by step, scientifically, and set theories and beliefs aside).

So observation of facts is where we must begin if we want to develop an effective spiritual life and an effective Meditation practice.

This is the first important basis of effective Meditation practice: focus on the facts.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

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