Monday, 02 July 2018
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Hello

I was wondering. Is Belzebub of Gurdjieff 's book " A tale to his grandson" the same Belzebub Master Samael Aun Weor speaks of in the revolution of Belzebub ?
4 years ago
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Yes. Gurdjieff and Samael Aun Weor teach the same knowledge. Although "All and Everything" is a fictional narrative using Beelzebub as its protagonist, Gurdjieff's Beelzebub is the same encountered by Master Samael in "The Revolution of Beelzebub", and the number of parallel teaching between these two Masters is ample evidence of their concordance. There is a quote by Master Samael in which he categorically states that Gurdjeff's teachings and his own are the same. Perhaps another instructor will be able to pinpoint this quote for you, as it does mitigate any doubt resulting from perceived differences between these two teachers.
4 years ago
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#16693
Accepted Answer
Yes. Gurdjieff and Samael Aun Weor teach the same knowledge. Although "All and Everything" is a fictional narrative using Beelzebub as its protagonist, Gurdjieff's Beelzebub is the same encountered by Master Samael in "The Revolution of Beelzebub", and the number of parallel teaching between these two Masters is ample evidence of their concordance. There is a quote by Master Samael in which he categorically states that Gurdjeff's teachings and his own are the same. Perhaps another instructor will be able to pinpoint this quote for you, as it does mitigate any doubt resulting from perceived differences between these two teachers.
4 years ago
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Many have been bottled up in the literature of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky, and no longer want to get out of there. Thus, they become more Gurdjieffists than Gurdjieff, as if Gurdjieff was the last word. Listen: Gurdjieff is nothing more than a beginner in these studies. The doctrine of Gurdjieff is incipient, completely incipient; if we stay bottled up in it we will never move forward.

Keep in mind that now we are going to give you the Pistis Sophia, and that is where we will realize that Gurdjieff is just kindergarten. So do not get stuck in Gurdjieff. He is good for documentation, but not to stay bottled up there.

The Gnostic teachings are greater! We are going to study the Pistis Sophia which is the entire body of the doctrine of Jesus of Nazareth, just as he delivered it on the Mount of Olives. - Samael Aun Weor

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

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