Dear Instructor,
A few years ago I read of and about Heinrich Arnold Krumm-Heller. I read both positive and negative things, took what interested me, and left the rest aside.
In a recent post by Arthur on the forum about SAW’s opinion on the mixing of races instructor Almustafa gave the answer, in which he wisely, in name of the gnostics, takes distance from racist statements made by Master Huiracocha.
About Krumm’s name:
Huiracocha is in the Inca pantheon the creator of all things, and it was this name that Krumm-Heller used as his name in esoteric circles.
To me that’s the same as calling yourself G_d-Almighty…
Krumm, his official sur name (Heller was his mother’s maiden name) means crooked in German.
The name Heller finds it’s origin in the German word for healer.
That makes ‘Krumm-Heller’ ‘Crooked Healer' that later changed his name in G_d Almighty.
How do you see this?
About Krumm-Heller, the person:
-As Almustafa stated, it is true that Krumm-Heller was against the mixing of races. In fact, Krumm concluded that coloured people were racially inferior by sniffing their perspiration, which in my opinion goes way beyond being just racist.
-His son Cuauthemoc Krumm-Heller went in 1937 to the famous Nazi elite school NAPOLA. The Napola (Nationalpolitische Erziehungsanstalt = National-Political College) was an elitist reformatory in the spirit of Hitler who formulated his educational purposes as follows: "In my order castles of youth will grow which the world will be frightened off. I want a violent, domineering, intrepid, cruel youth.
-During world war II Krumm-Heller lived in Germany, where he had a nazi flag along side a mexican flag in front of his house.
-In the issue of his magazine "Rosa-Cruz", 27th April 1933, he wrote inspired by Hitler being a stormy fighter of the working class whose ideas should be adopted by all countries.
It was unfortunate, Krumm-Heller opined, that the press compared Hitler with Mussolini, as there was a big difference: Mussolini stripped the Italian King of his power whereas the Germans were rendered powerless by the socialists.
Krumm-Heller saw two scapegoats: the Jews and the ideals of the French Revolution. In Krumm-Heller's eyes, The Hitlerianismo should create a new philosophy, that is a new German identity. He believed that the persecution of the Jew was a pure lie and he considered the pain of the Jews as a means for the good of the whole planet.
Some quotes from gnosticteachers about Krumm:
“65. We recognize that Master Huiracocha is a guru of the universal White Fraternity. It is evident for me that he is an archbishop of the Gnostic Church. Yet, he committed a lamentable mistake when he made these statements in his course of Magic Runes.“
65-Like I said I do believe that Krumm-Heller did write interesting things that helped me personally to get further on my way, but looking at his political-racial-nazi believes, I find it hard to imagine him as a guru of the Universal White Fraternity. How do you see this?
49. We do not accept the statement of Master Huiracocha that black and yellow skinned people cannot belong to the White Lodge because it is only for people who belong to the white race.
50. We cannot accept this type of racial prejudice, because the White Lodge is universal.
I can’t see 49 and 50 differently than being contradictory. How can you state that he was a racist and at the same state the White Lodge is for all kind of skin colored races?
“66. There is no doubt that if the Guru Huiracocha had a physical body he would rectify those errors. Humans commit errors, however only those who are stubborn remain in the error. -Samael Aun Weor, Igneous Rose: "The Creative Larynx »“
66- Of course all humans commit errors, I just can’t see how the errors he made in his life could be the errors of a member of the White Fraternity…
Perhaps he does regret his mistakes, if SAW thinks so, I certainly hope he does. But at the same time, the mistakes he made, he made them… Karma will do the rest. With all the respect that I have for SAW, I do feel that saying you’re sure he regrets his mistakes now, is a bit of an easy way out… Don’t you?
When reading on gnosticteachings.org, where his name is mentioned close to a hundred times, I feel that he is being portrayed as a Saint, which doesn’t feel right to me.
Whilst googling I just saw a website that has a letter of Krumm-Heller published that he signed « heil hitler »… On the Gnostic website he is listed next to Jesus, buddha and the Dalai Lama… I really don’t get that and really look forward reading your view on this.
A few years ago I read of and about Heinrich Arnold Krumm-Heller. I read both positive and negative things, took what interested me, and left the rest aside.
In a recent post by Arthur on the forum about SAW’s opinion on the mixing of races instructor Almustafa gave the answer, in which he wisely, in name of the gnostics, takes distance from racist statements made by Master Huiracocha.
About Krumm’s name:
Huiracocha is in the Inca pantheon the creator of all things, and it was this name that Krumm-Heller used as his name in esoteric circles.
To me that’s the same as calling yourself G_d-Almighty…
Krumm, his official sur name (Heller was his mother’s maiden name) means crooked in German.
The name Heller finds it’s origin in the German word for healer.
That makes ‘Krumm-Heller’ ‘Crooked Healer' that later changed his name in G_d Almighty.
How do you see this?
About Krumm-Heller, the person:
-As Almustafa stated, it is true that Krumm-Heller was against the mixing of races. In fact, Krumm concluded that coloured people were racially inferior by sniffing their perspiration, which in my opinion goes way beyond being just racist.
-His son Cuauthemoc Krumm-Heller went in 1937 to the famous Nazi elite school NAPOLA. The Napola (Nationalpolitische Erziehungsanstalt = National-Political College) was an elitist reformatory in the spirit of Hitler who formulated his educational purposes as follows: "In my order castles of youth will grow which the world will be frightened off. I want a violent, domineering, intrepid, cruel youth.
-During world war II Krumm-Heller lived in Germany, where he had a nazi flag along side a mexican flag in front of his house.
-In the issue of his magazine "Rosa-Cruz", 27th April 1933, he wrote inspired by Hitler being a stormy fighter of the working class whose ideas should be adopted by all countries.
It was unfortunate, Krumm-Heller opined, that the press compared Hitler with Mussolini, as there was a big difference: Mussolini stripped the Italian King of his power whereas the Germans were rendered powerless by the socialists.
Krumm-Heller saw two scapegoats: the Jews and the ideals of the French Revolution. In Krumm-Heller's eyes, The Hitlerianismo should create a new philosophy, that is a new German identity. He believed that the persecution of the Jew was a pure lie and he considered the pain of the Jews as a means for the good of the whole planet.
Some quotes from gnosticteachers about Krumm:
“65. We recognize that Master Huiracocha is a guru of the universal White Fraternity. It is evident for me that he is an archbishop of the Gnostic Church. Yet, he committed a lamentable mistake when he made these statements in his course of Magic Runes.“
65-Like I said I do believe that Krumm-Heller did write interesting things that helped me personally to get further on my way, but looking at his political-racial-nazi believes, I find it hard to imagine him as a guru of the Universal White Fraternity. How do you see this?
49. We do not accept the statement of Master Huiracocha that black and yellow skinned people cannot belong to the White Lodge because it is only for people who belong to the white race.
50. We cannot accept this type of racial prejudice, because the White Lodge is universal.
I can’t see 49 and 50 differently than being contradictory. How can you state that he was a racist and at the same state the White Lodge is for all kind of skin colored races?
“66. There is no doubt that if the Guru Huiracocha had a physical body he would rectify those errors. Humans commit errors, however only those who are stubborn remain in the error. -Samael Aun Weor, Igneous Rose: "The Creative Larynx »“
66- Of course all humans commit errors, I just can’t see how the errors he made in his life could be the errors of a member of the White Fraternity…
Perhaps he does regret his mistakes, if SAW thinks so, I certainly hope he does. But at the same time, the mistakes he made, he made them… Karma will do the rest. With all the respect that I have for SAW, I do feel that saying you’re sure he regrets his mistakes now, is a bit of an easy way out… Don’t you?
When reading on gnosticteachings.org, where his name is mentioned close to a hundred times, I feel that he is being portrayed as a Saint, which doesn’t feel right to me.
Whilst googling I just saw a website that has a letter of Krumm-Heller published that he signed « heil hitler »… On the Gnostic website he is listed next to Jesus, buddha and the Dalai Lama… I really don’t get that and really look forward reading your view on this.
Accepted Answer
One thing is the Innermost Being and another is the terrestrial personality.
The terrestrial personality that has our mundane name is fallen into sin and filled with mistakes.
The Innermost Being is divine, perfect.
If at some point a persons Innermost directed its terrestrial personality into initiation, then that Innermost becomes a master. The terrestrial personality is NEVER a master. It is the Innermost who is the master.
The terrestrial person "Krumm-Heller" was deeply mistaken in many ways. The Innermost Being within him, who is named Huiracocha, tried to guide that terrestrial personality on the path in order to correct those mistakes, but like all of us, the terrestrial personality did not listen, and was flawed, mistaken, stubborn, and foolish.
Therefore, it is necessary to ascertain the difference between the actions of the terrestrial person and the actions of the Innermost Being.
Huiracocha is a great master, but his terrestrial personality Krumm-Heller was foolish and mistaken.
There are MANY examples like this: Innermosts who are masters in the internal worlds trying to guide their foolish, ridiculous terrestrial personalities away from doing stupid things. Some are even worse than Krumm-Heller!
The terrestrial personality that has our mundane name is fallen into sin and filled with mistakes.
The Innermost Being is divine, perfect.
If at some point a persons Innermost directed its terrestrial personality into initiation, then that Innermost becomes a master. The terrestrial personality is NEVER a master. It is the Innermost who is the master.
The terrestrial person "Krumm-Heller" was deeply mistaken in many ways. The Innermost Being within him, who is named Huiracocha, tried to guide that terrestrial personality on the path in order to correct those mistakes, but like all of us, the terrestrial personality did not listen, and was flawed, mistaken, stubborn, and foolish.
Therefore, it is necessary to ascertain the difference between the actions of the terrestrial person and the actions of the Innermost Being.
Huiracocha is a great master, but his terrestrial personality Krumm-Heller was foolish and mistaken.
There are MANY examples like this: Innermosts who are masters in the internal worlds trying to guide their foolish, ridiculous terrestrial personalities away from doing stupid things. Some are even worse than Krumm-Heller!
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
Accepted Answer
One thing is the Innermost Being and another is the terrestrial personality.
The terrestrial personality that has our mundane name is fallen into sin and filled with mistakes.
The Innermost Being is divine, perfect.
If at some point a persons Innermost directed its terrestrial personality into initiation, then that Innermost becomes a master. The terrestrial personality is NEVER a master. It is the Innermost who is the master.
The terrestrial person "Krumm-Heller" was deeply mistaken in many ways. The Innermost Being within him, who is named Huiracocha, tried to guide that terrestrial personality on the path in order to correct those mistakes, but like all of us, the terrestrial personality did not listen, and was flawed, mistaken, stubborn, and foolish.
Therefore, it is necessary to ascertain the difference between the actions of the terrestrial person and the actions of the Innermost Being.
Huiracocha is a great master, but his terrestrial personality Krumm-Heller was foolish and mistaken.
There are MANY examples like this: Innermosts who are masters in the internal worlds trying to guide their foolish, ridiculous terrestrial personalities away from doing stupid things. Some are even worse than Krumm-Heller!
The terrestrial personality that has our mundane name is fallen into sin and filled with mistakes.
The Innermost Being is divine, perfect.
If at some point a persons Innermost directed its terrestrial personality into initiation, then that Innermost becomes a master. The terrestrial personality is NEVER a master. It is the Innermost who is the master.
The terrestrial person "Krumm-Heller" was deeply mistaken in many ways. The Innermost Being within him, who is named Huiracocha, tried to guide that terrestrial personality on the path in order to correct those mistakes, but like all of us, the terrestrial personality did not listen, and was flawed, mistaken, stubborn, and foolish.
Therefore, it is necessary to ascertain the difference between the actions of the terrestrial person and the actions of the Innermost Being.
Huiracocha is a great master, but his terrestrial personality Krumm-Heller was foolish and mistaken.
There are MANY examples like this: Innermosts who are masters in the internal worlds trying to guide their foolish, ridiculous terrestrial personalities away from doing stupid things. Some are even worse than Krumm-Heller!
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
Dear Alexis,
Thank you so much for your message. If I have taken so long to get back to you, it is only because I have given your message a lot of thought and I must say that my efforts trying to feel and see the things the way you describe them, haven't resulted in any change on my side. I see what you mean, but it just doesn't feel right to me. Anyway, in the end it's just a detail compared with the multitude of magnificent things this website is filled with
Thank you so much for your message. If I have taken so long to get back to you, it is only because I have given your message a lot of thought and I must say that my efforts trying to feel and see the things the way you describe them, haven't resulted in any change on my side. I see what you mean, but it just doesn't feel right to me. Anyway, in the end it's just a detail compared with the multitude of magnificent things this website is filled with
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