Sunday, 24 June 2012
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I was wondering: Is the rising of the inner fiery serpent upon the staff always followed by an encounter with an external feathered serpent? Or is this a-typical?

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10 years ago
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#1582
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This is a symbol, an archetype of knowledge for the consciousness. It would be unique to find a physical feathered serpent. Perhaps there are actual cases of this. However, what is important is the psychological and spiritual signification of the symbol within our own internal work of the consciousness.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

10 years ago
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#1582
Accepted Answer
This is a symbol, an archetype of knowledge for the consciousness. It would be unique to find a physical feathered serpent. Perhaps there are actual cases of this. However, what is important is the psychological and spiritual signification of the symbol within our own internal work of the consciousness.

Joyful in hope, suffering in tribulation, be thou constant in thy prayer.

Benedictis, qui venit in nomine Domini. Osanna in excelsis.

"Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

10 years ago
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#1741
It's definitely not simply a symbol. My inner work has involved primarily two things: writing + gnosticteachings = death of the ego of alcoholism. I wrote a stack of material to work out the damage of Catholic Soul Murder. I published the third draft (not written to be published, but I was unemployed with an injury). In it I explain how Pizarro conquered the Inca in one evening with one little boat load of men, and with little resistance. My explanation turns out to match one of the Indian myths of the feathered serpent. After I wrote that material, I threw it on the shelf and ignored it for a long time. Leaving the building one morning where I wrote the material, I saw a tunnel of raven flying over the entrance to the property. When I got to the highway I could see an Ouroboros made of raven stretching from the southern to the northern horizon, weaving back and forth over route "93" It led me to my house. I thought I was projecting a serpent froman earlier dream, but my first wife looked out the window and saw it.

Roughly twenty years later I have an ego vanish in a feminine light (posted in testimonies) thanks to your help. A few months later, thousands of screaming raven popped by one evening. I spent the day reading Serpent in the Sky: The High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt by John Anthony West (which I cannot over recommend), went out side to snow blow, and found myself being scoulded by a cloud of raven, covering everything in sight, for over an hour. I had divorced my first wife and so lost my only eye witness. So I tried to pretend it really didn't happen that way. So on the second coming of feathered serpent, my second and final wife also looked out the window like the first, and also exclaimed in surprise (and again letting me know I was not hallucinating).

I'm a quarter Algonquin indian, and I live on formerly Algonquin land. All indians (with universal parallels) worshipped a Feathered Serpent, The Great Spirit, The Divine Mother, who in my case took the time to scold her wretched, decrepid, loathsome little worm of a sleepwalking monkey because in my trance of vigil I tried to forget Her. If I had only found you sooner, always saying "Never forget your Divine Mother!" But I think she knows I didn't recognize her at first. I'm like a worm in the mud, ya know.

JA West gives his book away for free in pdf (google it) and in the interest of sharing my healing, my inner work is free to read at

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10 years ago
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#1823
While I fully agree with what you said, that "what is important is the psychological and spiritual signification of the symbol within our own internal work of the consciousness." I'm still left with the question: How would YOU interpret that archetype spilling out into the physical world, twice, through thousands of raven? The first flock showd up at the crack of dawn and was silent. The second at dusk and was screaming. (And each followed the rising of an inner energy.) Keep in mind that the first was actually the second time seeing a serpent in the sky--the first was in a dream which I found laid out detail for detail in The Essential Kabbalah by Daniel C Matt. What's more, in the dream the serpent (as the branch of The Great Tree) pointed at me through a window, while the first flock actually seemed to dip down and up sharply forming an angle as if pointing at my home, startling both me and my first wife. The form stayed stationary while the raven flew through the form.

Particularly interesting is that the path connecting the heart and the right hemisphere in the map of Kabbalah, is the path of Aries and the Window which appears twice in the name of God. Both my wives are Aries, and each looked out a window to see a Mighty Flock. The heart and the right hemisphere together are what was "resurrected" during the dissolution of my alcoholic I. Does this make my wives my windows of darkness (1st) and light (2nd)? Lilith and Shekinah?

The details and synchronicity gets quite elaborate, so I'll leave it at that. These sort of encounters make impressions that do not fade easily. They demand to be comprehended. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

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10 years ago
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#1824
Correction: "Transform" instead of "fade"

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10 years ago
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#1840
I don't mean to be pushy. It just seems to me that if the archetype repeatedly presents itself to others, who am I to say it's "purely" a private inner matter? "Primarily" yes, but "purely" no. It's not easy to hide a cloud of screaming raven from your neighbors as it fills your neighborhood showing up after you go outside, then leaving after you go in the house. After all, doesn't this express the transition between the Picean Age and the Aquarian? From things hidden to revealed? (This is rhetorical.)

Thanks for your time.

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