Friday, 10 November 2017
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My best friends are Non-Denominational Christians. I don't believe the same things they believe. Their idea of what salvation is is so complicated yet vague that it makes my brain hurt. I can debate with them all day about verses in the bible but their beliefs will never change. I want to help my friends because out of all the people I have met in my life, these individuals are some of the kindest, most accepting, positive people I have encountered (except maybe some Buddhist monks I talk with occasionally). They even tolerate my study of gnosis, though some of them have told me that gnosticism is evil, all other religions besides Christianity were made by Satan himself in order to deceive humans, and lately my friend said Christianity was the only religion where people surrendered totally to God. Anyway despite all these strange beliefs I want to prove to them that chastity, meditation, and mindfulness are biblical and should be practiced by Christians as it is what Jesus taught. These are the three things that they are missing in their spiritual practice. I have been working on a list of all the bible verses that speak about Kundalini (raising the serpent upon a staff), refraining from spilling the semen, and work on your consciousness. For me Buddhism gives a great description of how to be mindful and meditate, while Christianity holds many symbolic verses about the true nature of chastity and Kundalini. The problem is they won't read anything Buddhist, and it would be a miracle if one of them read anything gnostic with an open mind. The verses I have so far mostly have to do with chastity. They are Leviticus 15:16, Genesis 3:1-24, Numbers 21:6-9, John 3:3-21, 1 Corinthians 7:29 and, John 4:16. What verses am I missing, which ones will help support my argument that we should never orgasm. How do I get them to become chaste? What verses are there about awakening consciousness, and meditation? What are the most important things I could tell them to do practically, that if they actually commit themselves to, they will start to liberate themselves from suffering and start to experience the divine instead of theorizing about it. I desperately want them to experience the things I have experienced and have the faith I have now and also the physical and psychological healing I have been blessed to have. I would hate to see people who are so passionate about God lose out on the gift of final liberation. I think they are so scared of offending God by questioning who Jesus really was that they blindly accept his story of being our Messiah, but from what I understand no god or master can save us, and even our own Being can only do so much. Bottom line is we have to do the work ourselves and Christ will help us tremendously. Am I correct in saying this? In synthesis... how in the world do I get my Christian friends to actually do conscious works to begin liberating themselves? Can I teach them mantras and pranayama so they can directly come to experience this energy of Christ (this is what hooked me)? What other conversational topics are there that could help them open their mind?

I heard a statistic that stated something like close to 70% of Christians believe in hell but only 1% of them think they will go to hell. Super scary.
Anyway thanks for reading, sorry for being long-winded, and thanks for answering ahead of time.
6 years ago
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#15811
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Discussions and polemics have ruined many spiritual schools. When two individuals argue, what they have is pride and arrogance in their mind; both want to demonstrate their boasted superiority to one another, both have Satan enthroned in their mind. We must always respectfully express our concept and allow our listener the freedom to accept or reject our concept. Everybody is free to think as they please and we cannot exercise power over our neighbor’s mind, because that would be black magic. Intellectual discussion is luciferic and demonic.

We need to have the mind of a child in order to enter into the Major Mysteries. We need to be like children in our minds and hearts. We need to be perfect as our Father who is in heaven is perfect. The great mysteries are not achievable through vain intellectualisms; the Major Mysteries are achievable with the heart of a child. We have known great Masters of the White Lodge who are totally illiterate. -Samael Aun Weor, The Major Mysteries
Why try to teach someone who doesn’t want to learn? Every master faces this ordeal, but what distinguishes them is their patience and tolerance.

Remember that the principal virtue of the Gnostic Church is tolerance and love: acceptance of the free will of others.
There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut (black magic and intellectuslisms) and believes in Allah (the Cosmic Christ) has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah (divinity) is Hearing and Knowing. -Quran 2:256
The courses on this website contain innumerable biblical passages with explanations about their meaning, especially regarding chastity. You can easily find them via the search engine or by looking at the courses section.

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

6 years ago
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#15811
Accepted Answer
Discussions and polemics have ruined many spiritual schools. When two individuals argue, what they have is pride and arrogance in their mind; both want to demonstrate their boasted superiority to one another, both have Satan enthroned in their mind. We must always respectfully express our concept and allow our listener the freedom to accept or reject our concept. Everybody is free to think as they please and we cannot exercise power over our neighbor’s mind, because that would be black magic. Intellectual discussion is luciferic and demonic.

We need to have the mind of a child in order to enter into the Major Mysteries. We need to be like children in our minds and hearts. We need to be perfect as our Father who is in heaven is perfect. The great mysteries are not achievable through vain intellectualisms; the Major Mysteries are achievable with the heart of a child. We have known great Masters of the White Lodge who are totally illiterate. -Samael Aun Weor, The Major Mysteries
Why try to teach someone who doesn’t want to learn? Every master faces this ordeal, but what distinguishes them is their patience and tolerance.

Remember that the principal virtue of the Gnostic Church is tolerance and love: acceptance of the free will of others.
There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut (black magic and intellectuslisms) and believes in Allah (the Cosmic Christ) has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah (divinity) is Hearing and Knowing. -Quran 2:256
The courses on this website contain innumerable biblical passages with explanations about their meaning, especially regarding chastity. You can easily find them via the search engine or by looking at the courses section.

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

6 years ago
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#15838
Thank you! Great quotes
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