According to the tradition of gnosis as taught by Samael, I have a few questions in regards to how long should a couple wait to beginning to advance their practices of gnosis to the level of white sexual magic.
1) What books and resources are recommended to be fully intellectually understood by the personality, BEFORE beginning to practice, as to avoid common mistakes?
2) What books and resources are recommended, as the couple begin to experiment, in order to advance their white magic practices, into perfection?
3) Or rather, would it be recommended that the entire doctrine of sexual magic taught by Samael be intellectually understood before the actual approach to comprehension of the doctrine (practicing it)?
4) How advanced should the couple be with their own individual ability to meditate, concentrate, astral travel, recall dreams, and proficiency in the breathwork/pranayama/transmutation for singles, before beginning "the great work"?
The reason I ask this, is because of the current state of humanity, and the world, and the way the teachings are taught in regards to the "times of the end", I feel there is an urgency to advance in the gnostic works, and use as much energy I have access to, to put an end to the ego.
I have meditated upon it, and will continue to do so, but I cannot completely comprehend the depths of these hidden egos.
I cannot tell, if this sense what this sense of urgency comes from a genuine compassion towards humanity, or ego:
Fear of not having enough time to complete the work in this lifetime? This also implies the fear of death, or that it may be our last lifetime. or even worse, a hidden desire of lust?
When I see many questions on this forum answered with. "ask your inner deities in profound meditation, and he/she will answer your question." I have always assumed this is very advanced practice, because with lunar bodies, or perhaps karma, one is never given a "YES" or "NO" or any clear answer. It is always veiled in confusing symbols, and one has trouble deciphering what is their ego's projections, in these experiences, and what is truly their inner being's voice.
5) Is this assumption I have made regarding the lunar bodies and karma incorrect and ignorant? with more practice, can one with lunar bodies comprehend such a hard question, that has such deep, hidden and ego's from centuries of existence's lived in error?
6) To what degree is it possible to gain proficiency of astral travel, and therefore clarity and intuition to understand the meanings, with only a lunar body and pranayama? Is this idea of the limitations of the lunar bodies just merely an ego that is manifesting due to ignorance, or lack of experience in the astral?
I yearn for the time that I may be able to speak face to face with my inner being, and clearly understand what I need to do to carry out his will. I can sense it inside of me, I feel I am nearing the end of the probative path, due to great changes in my level of being, I have been presented with the opportunity to carry out the great work. I do not want to take such responsibility so lightly which I obviously have in past existences. Please, only give me what I need, nothing more.
1) What books and resources are recommended to be fully intellectually understood by the personality, BEFORE beginning to practice, as to avoid common mistakes?
2) What books and resources are recommended, as the couple begin to experiment, in order to advance their white magic practices, into perfection?
3) Or rather, would it be recommended that the entire doctrine of sexual magic taught by Samael be intellectually understood before the actual approach to comprehension of the doctrine (practicing it)?
4) How advanced should the couple be with their own individual ability to meditate, concentrate, astral travel, recall dreams, and proficiency in the breathwork/pranayama/transmutation for singles, before beginning "the great work"?
The reason I ask this, is because of the current state of humanity, and the world, and the way the teachings are taught in regards to the "times of the end", I feel there is an urgency to advance in the gnostic works, and use as much energy I have access to, to put an end to the ego.
I have meditated upon it, and will continue to do so, but I cannot completely comprehend the depths of these hidden egos.
I cannot tell, if this sense what this sense of urgency comes from a genuine compassion towards humanity, or ego:
Fear of not having enough time to complete the work in this lifetime? This also implies the fear of death, or that it may be our last lifetime. or even worse, a hidden desire of lust?
When I see many questions on this forum answered with. "ask your inner deities in profound meditation, and he/she will answer your question." I have always assumed this is very advanced practice, because with lunar bodies, or perhaps karma, one is never given a "YES" or "NO" or any clear answer. It is always veiled in confusing symbols, and one has trouble deciphering what is their ego's projections, in these experiences, and what is truly their inner being's voice.
5) Is this assumption I have made regarding the lunar bodies and karma incorrect and ignorant? with more practice, can one with lunar bodies comprehend such a hard question, that has such deep, hidden and ego's from centuries of existence's lived in error?
6) To what degree is it possible to gain proficiency of astral travel, and therefore clarity and intuition to understand the meanings, with only a lunar body and pranayama? Is this idea of the limitations of the lunar bodies just merely an ego that is manifesting due to ignorance, or lack of experience in the astral?
I yearn for the time that I may be able to speak face to face with my inner being, and clearly understand what I need to do to carry out his will. I can sense it inside of me, I feel I am nearing the end of the probative path, due to great changes in my level of being, I have been presented with the opportunity to carry out the great work. I do not want to take such responsibility so lightly which I obviously have in past existences. Please, only give me what I need, nothing more.
Accepted Answer
Everyone has different needs. Read and study the books, lectures, website, etc. Each person should start when they are ready. Everyone will make mistakes. Learn from them, and move ahead.
Some couples begin to practice transmutation immediately upon hearing of the teaching. Some others need to digest the teachings first. What matters most is that you begin when you want to, not when you are told to. You should WANT to do this, not feel that someone is demanding it of you, or that you have to follow someone else's requirements. Everything you do in these studies should be determined by your own will. You should do it because in your heart you feel the need, and you want to know for yourself.
Skill in all the techniques grows gradually in proportion to how we work. Those who work slowly and gradually will gain experience in the same way: slowly, gradually. Those who work intensely, constantly, will learn more, faster.
All of the techniques are interrelated and interdependent. That is, to succeed at any one of them, you need all the others. To start with one and not the others would be like learning to walk on one leg but not use your other limbs. Really, you need to develop them all together, since ultimately, that is how they work best. Remember, as a child, it took many years to walk, talk, eat, dress, run, play, etc. This is no different. Learn like a child does: with an open mind, always inquisitive, always trying, never giving up, and never limited by an inner critic.
Comprehension comes through practice combined with study. Those who only study gain no experience, and remain in darkness, since they build no fire inside. Those who practice but do not study develop fire but do not understand it, and thus fall into many absurd mistakes, especially when interpreting or understanding what they experience. Practice daily, study daily.
Understanding internal guidance through symbols also comes through practice combined with study. Especially study Kabbalah and religious scriptures. Some experiences take many years to understand. Some are easy. For example, I was once being pressured by an instructor to take psychedelic mushrooms. I resisted, but wanted to know what my Innermost wanted me to do. I meditated a lot. Many of the students had agreed to use mushrooms, and even other instructors as well; I was not having experiences on my own, and wanted to, so the pressure was becoming unbearable. Finally, in meditation I saw a very brief but unmistakable image of police chasing criminals. I immediately and completely knew that I was right to reject the mushrooms. So I told the instructor to leave me out of it, that I wanted nothing to do with it, much to his irritation. Later on, those who were involved with that situation regretted it bitterly. I had no regrets. So my answer was symbolic, but clear. In the many years since then, I have learned that interpretation is a delicate art that takes a lifetime to understand.
Even with lunar bodies, you can awaken consciousness a great deal, and be completely awake, here or internally. You can have very profound comprehension. Do not worry about your inner bodies, whether lunar, solar, etc. Focus on changing. The rest will come along the way.
Knowing the will of the Innermost begins in the conscience. Listen to your conscience. Slowly, gradually, it becomes clearer, greater...
Some couples begin to practice transmutation immediately upon hearing of the teaching. Some others need to digest the teachings first. What matters most is that you begin when you want to, not when you are told to. You should WANT to do this, not feel that someone is demanding it of you, or that you have to follow someone else's requirements. Everything you do in these studies should be determined by your own will. You should do it because in your heart you feel the need, and you want to know for yourself.
Skill in all the techniques grows gradually in proportion to how we work. Those who work slowly and gradually will gain experience in the same way: slowly, gradually. Those who work intensely, constantly, will learn more, faster.
All of the techniques are interrelated and interdependent. That is, to succeed at any one of them, you need all the others. To start with one and not the others would be like learning to walk on one leg but not use your other limbs. Really, you need to develop them all together, since ultimately, that is how they work best. Remember, as a child, it took many years to walk, talk, eat, dress, run, play, etc. This is no different. Learn like a child does: with an open mind, always inquisitive, always trying, never giving up, and never limited by an inner critic.
Comprehension comes through practice combined with study. Those who only study gain no experience, and remain in darkness, since they build no fire inside. Those who practice but do not study develop fire but do not understand it, and thus fall into many absurd mistakes, especially when interpreting or understanding what they experience. Practice daily, study daily.
Understanding internal guidance through symbols also comes through practice combined with study. Especially study Kabbalah and religious scriptures. Some experiences take many years to understand. Some are easy. For example, I was once being pressured by an instructor to take psychedelic mushrooms. I resisted, but wanted to know what my Innermost wanted me to do. I meditated a lot. Many of the students had agreed to use mushrooms, and even other instructors as well; I was not having experiences on my own, and wanted to, so the pressure was becoming unbearable. Finally, in meditation I saw a very brief but unmistakable image of police chasing criminals. I immediately and completely knew that I was right to reject the mushrooms. So I told the instructor to leave me out of it, that I wanted nothing to do with it, much to his irritation. Later on, those who were involved with that situation regretted it bitterly. I had no regrets. So my answer was symbolic, but clear. In the many years since then, I have learned that interpretation is a delicate art that takes a lifetime to understand.
Even with lunar bodies, you can awaken consciousness a great deal, and be completely awake, here or internally. You can have very profound comprehension. Do not worry about your inner bodies, whether lunar, solar, etc. Focus on changing. The rest will come along the way.
Knowing the will of the Innermost begins in the conscience. Listen to your conscience. Slowly, gradually, it becomes clearer, greater...
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
Accepted Answer
Everyone has different needs. Read and study the books, lectures, website, etc. Each person should start when they are ready. Everyone will make mistakes. Learn from them, and move ahead.
Some couples begin to practice transmutation immediately upon hearing of the teaching. Some others need to digest the teachings first. What matters most is that you begin when you want to, not when you are told to. You should WANT to do this, not feel that someone is demanding it of you, or that you have to follow someone else's requirements. Everything you do in these studies should be determined by your own will. You should do it because in your heart you feel the need, and you want to know for yourself.
Skill in all the techniques grows gradually in proportion to how we work. Those who work slowly and gradually will gain experience in the same way: slowly, gradually. Those who work intensely, constantly, will learn more, faster.
All of the techniques are interrelated and interdependent. That is, to succeed at any one of them, you need all the others. To start with one and not the others would be like learning to walk on one leg but not use your other limbs. Really, you need to develop them all together, since ultimately, that is how they work best. Remember, as a child, it took many years to walk, talk, eat, dress, run, play, etc. This is no different. Learn like a child does: with an open mind, always inquisitive, always trying, never giving up, and never limited by an inner critic.
Comprehension comes through practice combined with study. Those who only study gain no experience, and remain in darkness, since they build no fire inside. Those who practice but do not study develop fire but do not understand it, and thus fall into many absurd mistakes, especially when interpreting or understanding what they experience. Practice daily, study daily.
Understanding internal guidance through symbols also comes through practice combined with study. Especially study Kabbalah and religious scriptures. Some experiences take many years to understand. Some are easy. For example, I was once being pressured by an instructor to take psychedelic mushrooms. I resisted, but wanted to know what my Innermost wanted me to do. I meditated a lot. Many of the students had agreed to use mushrooms, and even other instructors as well; I was not having experiences on my own, and wanted to, so the pressure was becoming unbearable. Finally, in meditation I saw a very brief but unmistakable image of police chasing criminals. I immediately and completely knew that I was right to reject the mushrooms. So I told the instructor to leave me out of it, that I wanted nothing to do with it, much to his irritation. Later on, those who were involved with that situation regretted it bitterly. I had no regrets. So my answer was symbolic, but clear. In the many years since then, I have learned that interpretation is a delicate art that takes a lifetime to understand.
Even with lunar bodies, you can awaken consciousness a great deal, and be completely awake, here or internally. You can have very profound comprehension. Do not worry about your inner bodies, whether lunar, solar, etc. Focus on changing. The rest will come along the way.
Knowing the will of the Innermost begins in the conscience. Listen to your conscience. Slowly, gradually, it becomes clearer, greater...
Some couples begin to practice transmutation immediately upon hearing of the teaching. Some others need to digest the teachings first. What matters most is that you begin when you want to, not when you are told to. You should WANT to do this, not feel that someone is demanding it of you, or that you have to follow someone else's requirements. Everything you do in these studies should be determined by your own will. You should do it because in your heart you feel the need, and you want to know for yourself.
Skill in all the techniques grows gradually in proportion to how we work. Those who work slowly and gradually will gain experience in the same way: slowly, gradually. Those who work intensely, constantly, will learn more, faster.
All of the techniques are interrelated and interdependent. That is, to succeed at any one of them, you need all the others. To start with one and not the others would be like learning to walk on one leg but not use your other limbs. Really, you need to develop them all together, since ultimately, that is how they work best. Remember, as a child, it took many years to walk, talk, eat, dress, run, play, etc. This is no different. Learn like a child does: with an open mind, always inquisitive, always trying, never giving up, and never limited by an inner critic.
Comprehension comes through practice combined with study. Those who only study gain no experience, and remain in darkness, since they build no fire inside. Those who practice but do not study develop fire but do not understand it, and thus fall into many absurd mistakes, especially when interpreting or understanding what they experience. Practice daily, study daily.
Understanding internal guidance through symbols also comes through practice combined with study. Especially study Kabbalah and religious scriptures. Some experiences take many years to understand. Some are easy. For example, I was once being pressured by an instructor to take psychedelic mushrooms. I resisted, but wanted to know what my Innermost wanted me to do. I meditated a lot. Many of the students had agreed to use mushrooms, and even other instructors as well; I was not having experiences on my own, and wanted to, so the pressure was becoming unbearable. Finally, in meditation I saw a very brief but unmistakable image of police chasing criminals. I immediately and completely knew that I was right to reject the mushrooms. So I told the instructor to leave me out of it, that I wanted nothing to do with it, much to his irritation. Later on, those who were involved with that situation regretted it bitterly. I had no regrets. So my answer was symbolic, but clear. In the many years since then, I have learned that interpretation is a delicate art that takes a lifetime to understand.
Even with lunar bodies, you can awaken consciousness a great deal, and be completely awake, here or internally. You can have very profound comprehension. Do not worry about your inner bodies, whether lunar, solar, etc. Focus on changing. The rest will come along the way.
Knowing the will of the Innermost begins in the conscience. Listen to your conscience. Slowly, gradually, it becomes clearer, greater...
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes.” —Demosthenes
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." —Samael Aun Weor
Recently I actually have been begun my studying the hebrew letters, and I plan to be learning as much about the sephirotic tree of life as I can. Through practice, study and in the future, first hand.
Thank you, all of the responses are greatly appreciated, and have been very insightful and helpful to my path.
Thank you, all of the responses are greatly appreciated, and have been very insightful and helpful to my path.
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